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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #44 on: September 25, 2013, 06:12:36 AM »
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This place is turning into a sausage factory...  :knuddel:

Am i the only one here who is straight?   ;)


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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #45 on: September 25, 2013, 09:02:16 AM »
Ha!  I thought these were the 4 loves (just missing one)

Piru, Doom Master and Franko
 

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #46 on: September 25, 2013, 09:15:47 AM »
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Ha!  I thought these were the 4 loves (just missing one)

Piru, Doom Master and Franko

Cecilia.

Anyone who doesn't love her is not a true Amigan. :)
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #47 on: September 25, 2013, 09:22:37 AM »
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[piru is] Also very obnoxious.

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So you guys are saying Piru is actually a nice guy in real life? Fair enough. I haven't met him so i'll have to take your word for it.


"Obnoxious"? Piru? WTF Kesa! :evil:

Piru is a very nice guy online as well, and as others have already said he tells things like it is. And as many others he also have a threshold for how much bullsh!t he will take. I think this is the reason he left; the bullsh!t level at one point simply exceeded his threshold, and AFAIR it was a long time coming. He is far from the only one who left this place for similar reasons, the place went quickly downhill after Wayne left. He is still just as active as before though, it's only this place he left.

Piru is IMHO a true Amiga hero, he has a long, solid and very productive track record and an Amiga competence that few people (in any "camp") could match. A few may have been upset when he (by using benchmarks as proof) pointed out that the $3,000+ A1X1K wasn't at all the "Amiga Messiah" some wanted it to be. I think it's understandable that some were annoyed by this, but I also think it's OK because some of them really needed to wake up from deluded dreams and look at things for what they really are. But very few people Kesa, very few, would call Piru obnoxious! In fact, I can only think of one, and that is the trollmeister "Franko" that isn't allowed here anymore (God be praised!). And I think I recall having asked you this before Kesa, but your postings here makes it kind of calls for it again: Are you Franko, "Kesa"?

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This place is turning into a sausage factory...


No, it's turning into Moobunny.

I don't have anything against Moobunny (there is an obvious need for a site like that, as has been proven time after time again), but this site is not it, nor should it be.

So please stop this bullsh!t.

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #48 on: September 25, 2013, 09:55:47 AM »
Piru has always had bias against all things related to Aos4.x and a bias towards all things Mos. Some could interpret this as obnoxious. Especially when he states everything as fact and not his personal opinions.

Come to think of it you are always biased towards Mos and you seem to be VERY obnoxious.

As for the sausage factory comment i was only joking. You really need to work on your sense of humour.

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #49 on: September 25, 2013, 09:57:52 AM »
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Cecilia.

Anyone who doesn't love her is not a true Amigan. :)

nich baby, care to fill me in on why i should love her? She left before i joined. I have only spoken to her a few times on Whyzzat?
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2013, 10:58:05 AM »
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Piru has always had bias against all things related to Aos4.x and a bias towards all things Mos. Some could interpret this as obnoxious. Especially when he states everything as fact and not his personal opinions.

Come to think of it you are always biased towards Mos and you seem to be VERY obnoxious.


OK, you find Piru, myself - and I suppose everyone else who is biased towards MorphOS - to be repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, vile, foul, loathsome, etc (all synonyms to "obnoxious", to help you better understand the meaning of the word, in case you didn't). Personally I find that quite offensive and totally uncalled for. And when someone states things based on measurable and verifiable benchmarks and other proof that can easily be repeated by others, it's actually more correct to call it "facts" than "merely personal opinions". Piru does that, especially so when commenting on OS4 related things in regards to MorphOS related things.

Besides, everyone has the right to hold personal opinions. And everyone has the right to be biased towards MorphOS.


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As for the sausage factory comment i was only joking. You really need to work on your sense of humour.


I know it was a "joke". My response however, wasn't.


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I'M NOT FRANKO!!!


Hmm, didn't you claim that the last time as well? :p

Still, I felt the need to ask again...
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2013, 11:05:29 AM »
Well that escalated quickly. :(
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2013, 11:21:06 AM »
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OK, you find Piru, myself - and I suppose everyone else who is biased towards MorphOS - to be repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, vile, foul, loathsome, etc (all synonyms to "obnoxious", to help you better understand the meaning of the word, in case you didn't). Personally I find that quite offensive and totally uncalled for. And when someone states things based on measurable and verifiable benchmarks and other proof that can easily be repeated by others, it's actually more correct to call it "facts" than "merely personal opinions". Piru does that, especially so when commenting on OS4 related things in regards to MorphOS related things.

Besides, everyone has the right to hold personal opinions. And everyone has the right to be biased towards MorphOS.


WOAH!! Too much! When i say obnoxious i mean that he comes across as somewhat rude and sometimes offensive. All those words you mentioned above are horrible and i don't think anyone here deserves to be called those things. Well there is someone but that's another story.

I don't have a problem with facts or benchmarks. Except when maybe they are used as an excuse to troll.
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2013, 11:57:52 AM »
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those words you mentioned above are horrible and i don't think anyone here deserves to be called those things.


Good, I actually suspected that much. So maybe the next time you mean to call someone "rude", maybe you will simply say "rude" then?

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I don't have a problem with facts or benchmarks. Except when maybe they are used as an excuse to troll.


And let me guess - "trolling" is when the facts and benchmarks are used to show how MorphOS has advantages over OS4 in particular? Or is it when the facts and benchmarks simply goes against your own personal opinions in general?
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2013, 12:39:46 PM »
As I understand it you want to persuade people to use MorphOS. The people (that are still here) have somewhen decided to use (mostly) either MorphOS or AmigaOS. Many also have decided because of emotional reasons. By trying to proof them how wrong they are and how much money they have wasted you only anger them. It would be better to show them what you can do with MorphOS and why they should use it (as least as alternative/second system). BTW I read that MorphOS only supports up to 1.5 GB RAM, no MESA/Gallium and running on aging hardware (that is certainly not becoming faster) is not that impressive. It is a nice "Retro-System" at the moment but not so superior as you think.
 

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #55 on: September 25, 2013, 12:40:05 PM »
No, trolling is when you use every waking moment and every opportunity to hammer something.
 

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #56 on: September 25, 2013, 01:01:17 PM »
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As I understand it you want to persuade people to use MorphOS. The people (that are still here) have somewhen decided to use (mostly) either MorphOS or AmigaOS. Many also have decided because of emotional reasons. By trying to proof them how wrong they are and how much money they have wasted you only anger them. It would be better to show them what you can do with MorphOS and why they should use it (as least as alternative/second system). BTW I read that MorphOS only supports up to 1.5 GB RAM, no MESA/Gallium and running on aging hardware (that is certainly not becoming faster) is not that impressive. It is a nice "Retro-System" at the moment but not so superior as you think.

Why does it need MESA? It has it's own implementation of OpenGL that works very well.
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #57 on: September 25, 2013, 01:49:28 PM »
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OK, you find Piru, myself - and I suppose everyone else who is biased towards MorphOS - to be repulsive, disgusting, distasteful, vile, foul, loathsome, etc (all synonyms to "obnoxious",......


The word obnoxious means objectionable or irritating, not the list of synonyms you've put up. Its a long bow to relate synonyms of a word as someone's intent. Kesa's POV is just another POV to which he's entitled. As long as he's not breaking posting guidelines.

I respect Piru and his knowledge, but quite often confident, direct people can be perceived as arrogant or objectionable....

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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #58 on: September 25, 2013, 02:17:58 PM »
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Why not if left a.org all of us? no one likes the moderation or owners.


I am happy a.org user, don't have big problems with the moderation. Don't see a reason to leave a.org. I also find it always strange when people think they can speak for everybody else.
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Re: About 'Piru'
« Reply #59 from previous page: September 25, 2013, 02:50:57 PM »
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I respect Piru and his knowledge, but quite often confident, direct people can be perceived as arrogant or objectionable....

Viva la difference. If we were all the same the world would be a boring place.

Agreed.  I've watched plenty of people who rail on one anther from one camp to another, etc. etc. only to have one person, who incidentally half the time started it, call foul and get the other banned.

Both sides usually had interesting things to say but got too wound up in defending their own cause that they sometimes forgot what the spirit of this community is.

Diversity.

The Amiga was the first computer platform that offered its users an electrical platform that was good for music and audio, graphics and animation, multipurpose interaction, communication as well as all the standard computery things.

This diversity is what brought us all together, remember?  How many Amiga Users Groups did you all go to and meet people you normally would never had met because they are not just in a different field than you, but a whole different society.

I'm a bad mod becuse I see everyone's point of view and very rarly have the heart to drop the hammer.  I miss Franko and Piru.  I've had brilliant discussions with them both as well as others who no longer frequent the site.

What I can't do is what this site needs.  I cannot force you guys to like each other, respect each other, take a deap breath before responding to a post that you think is targeting something you hold dear.  I cannot grow a think skin and then hand it out to the users so they don't rise to every mean spirited thing posted.  I cannot give control so you don't hijack threads.  I cannot teach you manners.

What I can do is act as moderator between parties.  I can try to defuse situations before things go overboard.  I can talk, reason, entreat.  I try using these tools and they work every now and then but it comes down to the individual user to decide what he want to contribute and take away from A.ORG.

We all need to get back to our common baseline.  Amiga MEANS diversity; unity; common area for a myriad of people with a myriad of interests.  Amiga IS INCLUSION!  So please, don't push each other away...
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