About 'Piru'

[J-Golden]

I respect Piru and his knowledge, but quite often confident, direct people can be perceived as arrogant or objectionable....

Viva la difference. If we were all the same the world would be a boring place.

Agreed.  I've watched plenty of people who rail on one anther from one camp to another, etc. etc. only to have one person, who incidentally half the time started it, call foul and get the other banned.

Both sides usually had interesting things to say but got too wound up in defending their own cause that they sometimes forgot what the spirit of this community is.

Diversity.

The Amiga was the first computer platform that offered its users an electrical platform that was good for music and audio, graphics and animation, multipurpose interaction, communication as well as all the standard computery things.

This diversity is what brought us all together, remember?  How many Amiga Users Groups did you all go to and meet people you normally would never had met because they are not just in a different field than you, but a whole different society.

I'm a bad mod becuse I see everyone's point of view and very rarly have the heart to drop the hammer.  I miss Franko and Piru.  I've had brilliant discussions with them both as well as others who no longer frequent the site.

What I can't do is what this site needs.  I cannot force you guys to like each other, respect each other, take a deap breath before responding to a post that you think is targeting something you hold dear.  I cannot grow a think skin and then hand it out to the users so they don't rise to every mean spirited thing posted.  I cannot give control so you don't hijack threads.  I cannot teach you manners.

What I can do is act as moderator between parties.  I can try to defuse situations before things go overboard.  I can talk, reason, entreat.  I try using these tools and they work every now and then but it comes down to the individual user to decide what he want to contribute and take away from A.ORG.

We all need to get back to our common baseline.  Amiga MEANS diversity; unity; common area for a myriad of people with a myriad of interests.  Amiga IS INCLUSION!  So please, don't push each other away...

[OlafS3]

you are right but the problem is that people seem to think they are superior because of their choice or use phrases like "only" and "true" and the others are "copies" or just interested in playing old games. As long as this attitudes continue to exist as long there will be debates and derailing threads. A mod cannot change attitudes. The situation will only change if we all accept the differences and understand that all are equal.

[nicholas]

you are right but the problem is that people seem to think they are superior because of their choice or use phrases like "only" and "true" and the others are "copies" or just interested in playing old games. As long as this attitudes continue to exist as long there will be debates and derailing threads. A mod cannot change attitudes. The situation will only change if we all accept the differences and understand that all are equal.

The "True Believers" won't ever change their minds. Some of us like and use all four of the Amiga platforms (Amiga OS, AROS, MorphOS and OS4) and it causes the narrow minded ones blood to boil that we don't share their myopic views.

[nicholas]

I have to admit that winding them up can be great fun though!

[OlafS3]

I have to admit that winding them up can be great fun though!

lol :-)

[hbarcellos]

No. Is that a problem?

Even not being the type of guy who pursues and wants to beat homosexuals, I strongly dislike public demonstrations of homosexuality neither think that it should be something generally accepted as "a mere choice".

But, I think this is not the forum to discuss that, neither I have time enough to spent on this kind of subject...

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Even not being the type of guy who pursues and wants to beat homosexuals, I strongly dislike public demonstrations of homosexuality neither think that it should be something generally accepted as "a mere choice".

But, I think this is not the forum to discuss that, neither I have time enough to spent on this kind of subject...

I'm a straight male, but having many, many friends of both orientations, as well as transgender, etc.,  I am offended by the comment of "pursue and beat homosexuals".  Please keep this off a classic computer forum or move this thread to the coffee house forum, thanks!  

[hbarcellos]

I'm offended with the fact that you ignored the fact that I wrote that I'm not that type of person.
Besides, if you don't have any problem with that, why you made it clear at the beginning of your comments that you're a straight male?

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I'm offended with the fact that you ignored the fact that I wrote that I'm not that type of person.
Besides, if you don't have any problem with that, why you made it clear at the beginning of your comments that you're a straight male?

Why did you even bring it up, was my point?  This started as a thread extolling the virtues of Piru's programming abilities, and turned into a thread making comments about people beating homosexuals?  Sorry, this is your conductor speaking, the train of thought has derailed in crazytown!    Whatever, looks like I'll be blocking another person.  Bye!

[Duce]

Find it amusing how every darned innocuous thread (a thread giving props to Piru in this case) on A.org seems to degrade into either a red. vs blue flamefest or some festival of tender feelings butthurt about religion or religious style morality egofest.

Just saying.  It'd be amusing if it wasn't so predictable

[Ami_GFX]

Find it amusing how every darned innocuous thread (a thread giving props to Piru in this case) on A.org seems to degrade into either a red. vs blue flamefest or some festival of tender feelings butthurt about religion or religious style morality egofest.

Just saying.  It'd be amusing if it wasn't so predictable

And that just might be one of the reasons Piru is no longer on this forum.

[Duce]

Oh, it most certainly is.  That I don't doubt.  Piru always was a fun guy and had a thick skin, but I think the unprofessionalism esp. on the operators end of A.org really took its toll on the old timers.  I suspect Jens and others left for the same reasons.  A.org is the best Amiga site in the world to find completely non Amiga related fluff posts linked from other half baked "news" sites (see the Win 8 type tabloid journalism "news" linkbait type stuff that's so rampant here lately).

Between the rampant "link bait" posts, the pandering to C-USA, and stuff like the weird little "service blackout" that Tedd pulled I am surprised more people did not leave.

[nicholas]

Oh, it most certainly is.  That I don't doubt.  Piru always was a fun guy and had a thick skin, but I think the unprofessionalism esp. on the operators end of A.org really took its toll on the old timers.  I suspect Jens and others left for the same reasons.  A.org is the best Amiga site in the world to find completely non Amiga related fluff posts linked from other half baked "news" sites (see the Win 8 type tabloid journalism "news" linkbait type stuff that's so rampant here lately).

Between the rampant "link bait" posts, the pandering to C-USA, and stuff like the weird little "service blackout" that Tedd pulled I am surprised more people did not leave.

Some of us keep coming back, even after long periods of not logging in.

Amiga is like crack addiction and a.org is much better than aw.net or amigans.net as it has less loony true believers here.

Since Wayne sold up EAB and A1K have become much more interesting than this place though sadly, but I know I'm not the only one to have made lifelong friends here over the years so we have an emotional attachment to the place.

[ajlwalker]

Piru on a.org was the type of guy who was incredibly technically talented, but had a propensity to throw around accusations of people being "intellectually dishonest" when they had the nerve to challenge him.

He was also the type of person who in one thread would state a smart phone had to have a qwerty keyboard for him, and then in another thread forget what he said and inform us all he has bought two Nokia N9 phones (Hint these don't have any buttons, never mind a qwerty keyboard).

So I am not surprised he has come on for criticism here. If only he stuck to what he was good at, or alternatively apologised occasionally.

[kickstart]

"homosexuals", "messiah", "true believers"... whats this? Reading post like this is one of the reasons of "someone" leave "some forum".

[kickstart]

Piru on a.org was the type of guy who was incredibly technically talented, but had a propensity to throw around accusations of people being "intellectually dishonest" when they had the nerve to challenge him.

He was also the type of person who in one thread would state a smart phone had to have a qwerty keyboard for him, and then in another thread forget what he said and inform us all he has bought two Nokia N9 phones (Hint these don't have any buttons, never mind a qwerty keyboard).

So I am not surprised he has come on for criticism here. If only he stuck to what he was good at, or alternatively apologised occasionally.

Nokia N9 is a nice phone whats wrong with it?