Amiga.org Electrified.

[commodorejohn]

This is just silly..
If the SysAdmin wants a forum for Electric Cars, he can have one...

It's not like anyone is forcing anyone else to read the messages....
I never go to the Coffee House.  I know it's there, could care less, and yet it's being there doesn't negatively effect me in the slightest...

I disagree. The problem is that this is just another instance in a long line of instances of SysAdmin thinking that this site exists just to give him a preexisting audience for whatever he really wants it to be this month, like when he was stirring up the CUSA flamewars in a transparent attempt to drive site traffic, or shilling for shítty headphones. News flash, SysAdmin: Aorg is not about you. I don't want to sound like a total ingrate, but face the facts: it's just not. If you try to make it be about you, you're just going to drive away the people who want a forum about the Amiga, like so many people have been driven away already.

[SysAdmin]

I disagree. The problem is that this is just another instance in a long line of instances of SysAdmin thinking that this site exists just to give him a preexisting audience for whatever he really wants it to be this month, like when he was stirring up the CUSA flamewars in a transparent attempt to drive site traffic, or shilling for shítty headphones. News flash, SysAdmin: Aorg is not about you. I don't want to sound like a total ingrate, but face the facts: it's just not. If you try to make it be about you, you're just going to drive away the people who want a forum about the Amiga, like so many people have been driven away already.

News-brief Tedd's gave the site to me and has been gone for a while. I was never a fan of CUSA and was against Tedd promoting them on the site, giving Barry interviews Etc. I was always against CUSA's strategy of trying to sell the Amiga community overpriced Linux boxes we never asked for. Tedd gave them a little more leeway but I think he was proven wrong in the end.

[Bamiga2002]

+1 1/2
You hit the nail on the head there c=johnny boy.

[desiv]

The problem is that this is just another instance in a long line of instances of SysAdmin thinking that this site exists just to give him a preexisting audience for whatever he really wants it to be this month,.

It's not like that's the ONLY thing he does on this site..  Mostly, this site is great fun about Amiga stuff...

Now, does he ever do that?  Maybe...  Personally, I don't care...
It's his site..
As long as he doesn't take down the Amiga stuff, I'm good.  That's what I'm here for..
There is a lot of stuff on this site I'm not interested in.
I just ignore it....

Life is too short to be bothered by stuff that can be easily ignored...

..unless you enjoy bothering with it..  :swords:  

desiv

[commodorejohn]

News-brief Tedd's gave the site to me and has been gone for a while. I was never a fan of CUSA and was against Tedd promoting them on the site, giving Barry interviews Etc. I was always against CUSA's strategy of trying to sell the Amiga community overpriced Linux boxes we never asked for. Tedd gave them a little more leeway but I think he was proven wrong in the end.

Well, that's good to hear (though it would clear up some of the confusion if there weren't one unified "SysAdmin" account so people have to keep track of who's running things to keep this all straight.) Nevertheless, my point stands: Aorg is about what Aorg has always been about, the Amiga. Trying to change or dilute the focus of that (particularly in a way that nobody here cares about - if people on this forum cared about electric cars, why are there no topics about them in the Coffee House already? What's a subforum going to do for that?) is just going to drive more people away.

[Bamiga2002]

It's his site..
As long as he doesn't take down the Amiga stuff, I'm good.  That's what I'm here for..

Let's see if we are facing another "60 minutes" site shutdown this time...
Methinks this site is for us Amigoids regardless of the owner.

[desiv]

What's a subforum going to do for that?) is just going to drive more people away.

Really?

So, this is a viable conversation from your perspective:

Bob:  Hey Frank, I just found this great website..  Lots of great Amiga information
Frank:  Really, let me see..  Yep, covers a lot of topics, and has some great people willing to help out if  you have problems..
Bob:  Yep, and some fun and spirited discussions, this is just...er.. wait.. What's that?
Frank:  What's what?
Bob:  Did you scroll down?  There's a forum for Electric cars here!!!
Frank:  What?  On an Amiga site!!!  Well, that's it!  No matter the Amiga content, I'm out!
Bob: Me too!!!  Whew, that was a close one...

;-)

desiv

[A6000]

I never look at the coffee house area, but I might find it interesting to read about electric cars now and then.
The hold-up with electric cars is battery technology, get that sorted and we'll all be driving them.

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

As long as they don't show up on the main page I couldn't care less.  Go for it.  It *is* cool technology, but I'm surprised that there aren't already better forums out there for it.  For example when I want to go a forum about my pickup truck I go to coloradofans.com, I wouldn't ask for a sub-section on an Amiga website for my truck.  Isn't there already a, I dunno... leaffans.com or something?  

[Lurch]

At the end of the day it all comes down to keywords and ad revenue.

[A6000]

I remember an issue of practical computing in the late seventies that had an article about a pet 2001 removed from it's case and installed in a luxury car, so there is a tenuous connection between commodore and cars.

[paul1981]

...if people on this forum cared about electric cars, why are there no topics about them in the Coffee House already? What's a subforum going to do for that?) is just going to drive more people away.

:laugh1:

[mikrucio]

electric cars are crap, most people are fooled into the idea that they save the environment
and is an alternative to fuel.

except there is one major problem.
you need more electricity, more electricity equals more nuclear power stations.
or more smoke stacks (coal)

Especially in Australia we are so freaking dumb that the government wont make nuclear power plants. so instead they choose to make more smoke stacks....
so more coal burnt = larger hole in the ozone layer = more problems for everyone.

even if you have nuclear power, most countries will still have smoke stacks as well.
making more electricity is not a solution.

in fact to be completely blunt with all of you, there is no human solution to this problem!
either way we go we are DOOMED!

[SysAdmin]

@mikrucio

If you are against Electric cars then you are against electricity. Please tell me you don't have electricity in your home or apartment. A EV car uses less eletric to charge up than an air conditioner. My electric costs went up about $35 per month. Please tell me you don't have electricity but then how could you be posting on Amiga.org?

[commodorejohn]

A EV car uses less eletric to charge up than an air conditioner.

As in, it draws less power when charging than an air conditioner? It looks (if I'm reading this right) like that's marginally true for central AC (3300Kw/h for the Leaf versus ~3500Kw/h for the AC, about a 6% difference) but not remotely for a window unit (~1800Kw/h, 54% of the Leaf's power draw.) But the way I hear it, it takes a Leaf about eight hours to charge (from a dedicated charging station - more like 15-20 if you don't happen to have one of those handy and have to use a normal electrical outlet!) and it gets ~75-100 mi. per charge. Average miles per year for most drivers is about 15,000, so that's 150-200 charges, or 1200-1600 hours of charging per year. Whereas depending on the part of the country, AC is going to be running about 8-10 hours a day for about 1/4-2/5 of the year, or anywhere from 730-1461 hours per year, at no more than 6% greater power consumption and possibly little more than half.

Yeah, that definitely looks like a lower impact!

[ElPolloDiabl]

Air con plus heating. Easy for a car with a motor. Not easy for one with a battery in it.

There is a connection btw PowerPC was always sold as a greener CPU.