Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?  (Read 8560 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Duce

  • Off to greener pastures
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2009
  • Posts: 1699
    • Show only replies by Duce
    • http://amigabbs.blogspot.com/
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2013, 05:19:23 AM »
Problem with ANSI usually always falls back to the font issue.  Use the right font and you'll rarely see issues.
 

Offline Colani1200

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 707
    • Show only replies by Colani1200
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2013, 12:42:38 PM »
Quote from: Tenacious;747816
Significantly faster how?  Connection speed should depend on the serial.device, the modem and preference settings.
True, so it must be the gfx/text performance. Pages build up noticably quicker on JR-Comm, at least on my stock OCS A500 with 1 MB chip RAM. I tested both programs with a 19.2 kbps connection.

Quote
I remember moving up to NComm to get ANSI capability.  At the time, I was very impressed with it.  IIRC, the full last version is available today on Aminet (freeware?).
There is a 3.0 version, 3.06 update and free keyfile, yes.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2013, 12:47:16 PM by Colani1200 »
 

Offline amiga-penn-wchester

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 104
    • Show only replies by amiga-penn-wchester
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2013, 06:11:34 PM »
I believe NComm has a smaller memory footprint, slightly smaller than JRComm, and NComm seems to be speedy on 1.2, 1.3 systems and it should give you everything you need.  It was the first term program I used in the modem days for the amiga.

JRComm is also good, but seems to be better suited for 2.0 and up environments.

Then there is "Term", which is admittedly very large but very functional, might be overkill and probably only 2.0 and up.
 

Offline nyteschayde

  • VIP / Donor - Lifetime Member
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 643
    • Show only replies by nyteschayde
    • http://www.nyteshade.com
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2013, 11:48:19 PM »
Quote from: bbond007;742898
ncomm without any doubt


Oh wow that brought back memories. +1 vote for ncomm!
Senior MTS Software Engineer with PayPal
Amigas: A1200T 060/603e PPC • A1200T 060 • A4000D 040 • A3000 (x2) • A2000 Vamp/V2 • A1200 (x4) • A1000 (x3) • A600 Vamp/V1 • A500
 

Offline shaf

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 302
    • Show only replies by shaf
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2013, 12:56:35 AM »
Wasn't JRComm replaced by Terminus which required WB 2.x of later.
 

Offline Colani1200

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 707
    • Show only replies by Colani1200
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2013, 09:12:50 AM »
Quote from: shaf;747924
Wasn't JRComm replaced by Terminus which required WB 2.x of later.


Terminus works happily on WB 1.2. I can't see any advantage to JR-Comm and NComm though.
 

Offline bbond007

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2009
  • Posts: 1517
    • Show only replies by bbond007
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2013, 03:11:39 PM »
Quote from: Colani1200;747853
True, so it must be the gfx/text performance. Pages build up noticably quicker on JR-Comm, at least on my stock OCS A500 with 1 MB chip RAM. I tested both programs with a 19.2 kbps connection.


There is a 3.0 version, 3.06 update and free keyfile, yes.

are you running them both in the same number of color planes? ie jr-comm running in mono or 4 color vs ncomm running in default 8 color?

I run on my minimig 1.1 which has much better chipram speed so I don't notice any difference at all.
 

Offline Colani1200

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 707
    • Show only replies by Colani1200
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2013, 03:59:38 PM »
Quote from: bbond007;747965
are you running them both in the same number of color planes? ie jr-comm running in mono or 4 color vs ncomm running in default 8 color?

I ran them both in 8 color mode and connected to d1st.org, a BBS with quite massive ANSI gfx.
 

Offline smerf

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1666
    • Show only replies by smerf
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2013, 04:24:59 PM »
@Blakespot,

Hey if you can find one look at the fred fish collection if you can find a list, they had a really good terminal porgram, during the first three months that it came out, I know because I needed a program when I was in the Navy, I was using a C< 64 to put training stuff in the mainframe, bought an Amiga and found that program on fred fish, can't remember the name but it was during the first 3 months that Amiga came out.

Best part it was free.

smerf
I have no idea what your talking about, so here is a doggy with a small pancake on his head.

MorphOS is a MAC done a little better
 

Offline Colani1200

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 707
    • Show only replies by Colani1200
Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2013, 08:48:00 PM »
Quote from: amiga-penn-wchester;747893
I believe NComm has a smaller memory footprint, slightly smaller than JRComm, and NComm seems to be speedy on 1.2, 1.3 systems and it should give you everything you need.  It was the first term program I used in the modem days for the amiga.

JRComm is also good, but seems to be better suited for 2.0 and up environments.


I think you're mixing up the two, JR-Comm is definitely faster on 1.x and also uses slightly less RAM. A freshly started JR-Comm leaves me with 482056 bytes free on my A500, vs 464712 bytes using NComm. Both with an 8 color screen. NComm has the clear advantage of being available for free in Aminet though.
 

Offline whabang

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 7270
    • Show only replies by whabang
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2013, 09:33:27 AM »
On a completely, not completely unrelated side note:
How's performance with such slow systems? I'd like to hook a miggy up to a Linux box over the serial port, but I'm not sure it'd actually be usable.
Beating the dead horse since 2002.
 

Offline Colani1200

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 707
    • Show only replies by Colani1200
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2013, 11:20:08 AM »
Quote from: whabang;748092
On a completely, not completely unrelated side note:
How's performance with such slow systems? I'd like to hook a miggy up to a Linux box over the serial port, but I'm not sure it'd actually be usable.


I just posted a video which should give you an impression:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=65930

This is NComm with 8 colors. Less colors = more speed.
JR-Comm = even more speed :D
 

Offline motrucker

Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2013, 06:17:40 PM »
I still like Baud Bandit. I have BB 2.0.
A2000 GVP 40MHz \'030, 21Mb RAM SD/FF, 2 floppies, internal CD-ROM drive, micromys v3 w/laser mouse
A1000 Microbotics Starboard II w/2Mb 1080, & external floppy (AIRdrive)
C-128 w/1571, 1750, & Final Cartridge III+
 

Offline Linde

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Mar 2004
  • Posts: 457
    • Show only replies by Linde
    • http://hata.zor.org/
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2013, 07:41:36 PM »
Are there any good VT100 style telnet terminals that run windowed? Like whabang I'm more interested in controlling a headless linux system than logging into BBSes, so ANSI character sets and loads of colors isn't that important to me
 

Offline amiga-penn-wchester

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2011
  • Posts: 104
    • Show only replies by amiga-penn-wchester
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2013, 02:55:06 AM »
ANSI BBSs were never a big deal for me either.  In fact, I used 4color screen for NComm and JRComm and I still maintain NComm was snappier, regardless of the throughput (serial throughput is going to vary).  Bring it up to 8 or 16 colors and you are starting to see some load on the ami system, which affects the printing of characters to screen and the like.  

I though AmiTCP came with a VT100 emulator (napsaterm), could be mistaken or corrected on it though.  Didn't use AmiTCP much once MiamiDX came along.
 

Offline Tenacious

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2002
  • Posts: 1362
    • Show only replies by Tenacious
Re: Best terminal app for WB 1.3?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 17, 2013, 03:07:59 AM »
Quote from: Linde;748132
Are there any good VT100 style telnet terminals that run windowed? Like whabang I'm more interested in controlling a headless linux system than logging into BBSes, so ANSI character sets and loads of colors isn't that important to me


VLT?   It's on Aminet.