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CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« on: June 23, 2013, 01:56:03 AM »
I am located in North America (USA, not Canada), and I just bought a mint condition CD32 (never taken out of its protective plastic coverings).

1) The power supply unit says: INPUT 220~240. Does it mean it is an European one?

2) The power supply main cable (going to the wall) does not feature an actual plug (three pronged or not), it feature just three loose wires. Is this normal?

3) Can I use my Amiga 500 (or A600, or even my A1200) power supply instead?

4) If it is indeed a PAL system, how can I convert it into a NTSC?

This is the original post, on Ebay but I bought it locally from him, so probably he has forgotten to take his listing off.

Please let me know! Since I have feeling this guys just defrauded me.
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2013, 02:32:04 AM »
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2) The power supply main cable (going to the wall) does not feature an actual plug (three pronged or not), it feature just three loose wires. Is this normal?

3) Can I use my Amiga 500 (or A600, or even my A1200) power supply instead?


2) It should have some kind of plug. How else would it plug in so you could use it?

3) Not directly. But yes if modified/adapted.
 

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2013, 04:00:50 AM »
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2) It should have some kind of plug. How else would it plug in so you could use it?

I am not sure why it is like it, but there is no sign of tampering.
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2013, 04:42:57 AM »
Input: 220~240 means it's a European or some other foreign market PSU.

If you're in Europe, no reason why you couldn't just get a plug from the hardware store and wire it on there; perhaps you have an unfinished item that was destined for a certain market but never made it and was never completed?

If you're in North America your best bet would probably be to just get one of these and run it off a normal PC power supply (rather than trying to hunt down a CD32-specific one):

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=885
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2013, 06:32:47 AM »
I see. At first, yes, I was really upset that  I ended up getting a PAL system, but I am beginning to like it, it is in mint condition, even the plastic wrappings and still intact, and it is a A100 UK model. The original cardboard and carton is also in very good shape. Granted I paid a bit extra for it, but at the end of the day, I think I am owning a piece of history, nevertheless.

My Sony PVM-20l5 is a multisync native 15Khz RGB monitor (PAL and NTSC) so I am hoping I can connect it at least via S-Video. Or I can use a modern LCD monitor (have many of them laying around, DELL, etc.)
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2013, 06:35:34 AM »
Now I am going to be bold and ask the ultimate question (even though I haven't been able to test out my new PAL CD32 yet!) and see where would I be able to find one of these:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1883

For connection to an RGB monitor.
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2013, 07:50:30 AM »
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Now I am going to be bold and ask the ultimate question (even though I haven't been able to test out my new PAL CD32 yet!) and see where would I be able to find one of these:

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1883

For connection to an RGB monitor.

Hardly anywhere. "Very rare" - genuinely. Not just eBay "rare" LOL

Much easier to get hold of...and I estimate would probably cost roughly the same...one of these...

http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=1880

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Amiga-CD32-Floppy-Drive-/271210732146?pt=UK_VintageComputing_RL&hash=item3f256b5a72

With one of these to much (with SCART or RGB connection on the end)

http://www.ebay.de/itm/AMIGA-CD32-FLOPPY-DISK-DRIVE-RGB-CABLE-DB-15-CONNECTOR-2-RCAs-READ-BEFORE-BUY-/151063957558?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_186&hash=item232c1d103
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2013, 08:55:45 AM »
If you have the "french" version with an 8-pin mini DIN video connector you can get RGB video with the right cable. Anyway either way you can use the luminance pin to check if you have 15 625 Hz line frequency or 50 Hz vertical sync.

That last expansion accessory seems to indicate these signals are available directly on the expansion bus. Proberbly so the mpeg module can do it's overlay of played movie.
 

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2013, 09:38:09 AM »
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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2013, 09:55:55 AM »
Yes - those two cables are (essentiallly - except for the RCA audio) the same thing.

Not sure I understand the question on the last part...but...the top connection is a parallel port, the bottom connection is the RGB port.
 

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2013, 12:27:07 PM »
I guess someone confused floppy and video connector. On A500 the video connector on the computer is a DB23-male (compare)
 

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2013, 03:46:47 PM »
Hi,

OK, Lets see if I can get this right, first don't use that power supply, it is the dreaded European power supply. Will not work in N. America, but on a good note, all CD-32 use the same DC power inputs, so you can get an old PC power supply (can even be a old AT power supply) look up the voltages coming off the main plug and find the +12V, -12V, 5V and ground on the PC power supply main connector (don't use the drive connectors, it can cause problems in the future if you expand your CD32) now once you have that you can cut the plug off the European power supply (make sure you cut the wire behind the plug at least 2 to 3 feet, oh heck just cut it about 6-7 inches away from the power supply) and then look up the power input setting on the CD32 (you can get those off the old hardware site) and then hook up the wires to the appropriate places on the power supply. This should give you a working power supply for your CD32. As far as the NTSC or PAL, I believe if I remember right that if you hold both keys down on your mouse it will come up with a screen asking which graphics mode do you want to start up with, I have a SX-1 and it has a jumper for that, but I wired in a switch so that at a flip of a switch I can tell it to start up in which mode. If I had a schematic I could probably tell you where to solder wires to the expansion port connector to put the switch in, just remember always have your unit off before switching, probably wouldn't hurt with it on, but why take a chance.

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2013, 04:00:01 PM »
Hi,

For the video I bought one of these, works great on my A1200, CD32, A500, and my Atari, play stations etc.

Video Converter for replace to Amiga 1200 2000 RGB Monitor + Power adapter 5V 2A

Costs $39.95 and it suits the needs if you don't want to spend a lot of money, also you can buy a more expensive one already in a box and running if you aren't good at building stuff in electronics. I purchased mine on ebay.

Now there are some clowns on this site, that will yell and hiss, that it is a piece of junk, doesn't give the proper colors, and has sparkles in it. They should read the frapping instructions, the sparkles come from an improper ground, and the color can be adjusted by adjustment switches on the card. The only thing is do not, and I stress do not use the 5V off the video connector on the Amiga, it isn't strong enough to support the card. So much for the yo yo that said I bought one and it ruined my Amiga, check the amp ranges on the Amiga and the card your are going to use.

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2013, 04:12:45 PM »
it it actually works its probably a PAL :)
 

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Re: CD32: How do you know if it is PAL or NTSC?
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2013, 05:44:10 PM »
smerf, Does it really use -12V DC ?

http://www.hardwarebook.info/Amiga_CD32_Power