indivision ECS vs 1084

[desiv]

I've done both...  LCD and CRT...
For quality, the CRTs win...  Unless you've got some really great LCDish screen (Plasma or ??  I don't know..), I don't see that it's a question really.  CRT is better..

But CRTs get MUCH bigger as the screen size goes up.

I currently use a 1084s on my A1000, which I love..  Great image quality...

But my A1200 is connected to an LCD.  That's purely for desk space reasons.
My work desk has my work laptop on it, then my main LCD.
I have a KVM for the main LCD, so it's either the 2nd screen for my work laptop, the screen for my desktop, or the screen for my Amiga.

Trying to fit a CRT there that I can use with the Amiga just didn't work.
I actually have a 1702 in the corner of the desk, and it's OK for my Vic-20/Atari 7800/etc, but not for the Amiga with keyboard/mouse.  (It's fine for the Amiga with joystick, but I use my 1200 with the keyboard/mouse a lot.)

Now, the Amiga looks pretty good on the LCD.  But I prefer to game on my Amiga 1000 with the 1084s.  (Which isn't on the same desk, back corner of the office.)

Indivision (which I don't have(GBS), but have seen in action) is a great piece of hardware.  And using it with an Amiga is great.
But I prefer CRTs.  My MAME machine has a CRT as well..  I just prefer CRTs, when space is available..

desiv

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Ah you guys.  What's really funny is when you see kids these days, who've never seen a tube TV before, and you show them one and they go "What's that thing sticking off the back of the TV?!"  ;-)

On that note, anyone in the Washington, DC, area need a 1084S-D1?  It has it's front panel and all cables, and works fine with the exception of the push-button on the back not staying in (a pretty common problem), there's all sorts of ways to fix that just I haven't bothered since I don't use it anymore, LOL.  Am kind of tempted to keep it for nostalgia reasons, but I don't really have a lot of space and am not using it, so PM me an offer?

[Damion]

CRTs (by this I mean high-end ones) are still the reference for contrast, and lack of input lag and motion blur. Look at the LCD tests on prad.de for example. In addition, non-native screenmodes (Amiga games) are, at least when fullscreen, scaled on LCDs, which annoys some people. Granted, not everyone is sensitive to these issues, or cares. LCD can definitely still "look good" without beating CRT in every category.

Then you get into the strengths/weaknesses and tradeoffs of different LCD panel types. IIRC, Samsung cPVA of a few years back had black levels close to or better than CRT, but the pixel response was very slow. There's still no single perfect LCD tech.

[magnetic]

Damion interesting post

I still maintain that for Amiga gaming and demo watching RGB RULES! Dont forget that these things were Designed with RGB output in mind. The color richness is not matchable on crt or lcd. LIke I said I have an mk2 outputing crystal clear hdmi to a vizio 22 lcd (brand new good quality) and a Sony 20' rgb monitor. And when it comes to games or demos every time i'm watching the Sony. (dual display with hdmi out)