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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #74 from previous page: May 17, 2013, 03:07:04 AM »
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Actually? Yes. Take the Sega CD - FMV on a 12MHz 68000, even while playing a game! And that's got nothing on a mid-range 68k Mac or a moderately upgraded Amiga. Even a stock 1200 needs only a PCMCIA CD-ROM to whoop its ass.

I meant streaming video onto the Internet, and by also playing games I mean that the computer can stream the output of the graphics of the game to the Internet while you are playing it (thus also sending it to your monitor).
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2013, 03:26:23 AM »
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I meant streaming video onto the Internet, and by also playing games I mean that the computer can stream the output of the graphics of the game to the Internet while you are playing it (thus also sending it to your monitor).
Oh. Frankly that's actually pretty stupid.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2013, 03:28:46 AM »
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The mega cd has two 68000's and it still can't manage transferring a full frame, which is why they skipped every other pixel. None of them had any real game play.


There are almost no games for it, but add the 32x to that and it finally has some horsepower.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2013, 10:38:50 AM »
Not according to the angry video game nerd!

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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2013, 11:00:23 AM »
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" Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 2.7 without 3D."

Hey you think that is loud?
II have two MDDs and one is a earlier model with a fan that sounds like a jet engine.
I don't even notice the fan on my 9800XT.


I heard that MDDs are even worst. I could handle that level of noise back in the late 90s when I had something like this running at full speed blowing air directly to an AMD K6-2-400 mhz inside an open case.


It's easy to see why Apple changed the design so much for the G5.
BTW, is it true that the latest G5 (Quad-Water cooled) don't leak? (Black blocks)
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2013, 11:08:08 AM »
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Oh. Frankly that's actually pretty stupid.


It allows people to broadcast video from the PC over the Internet. There more practical applications i.e developers can stream video of builds of their program to other people in their team over the Internet or to people interested in the project.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2013, 11:13:43 AM »
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I heard that MDDs are even worst. I could handle that level of noise back in the late 90s when I had something like this running at full speed blowing air directly to an AMD K6-2-400 mhz inside an open case.


It's easy to see why Apple changed the design so much for the G5.
BTW, is it true that the latest G5 (Quad-Water cooled) don't leak? (Black blocks)


Actually, later MDDs are much quieter, but the early ones are REALLY loud.

And all water cooling stands a chance of leaking (besides the PCIe G5s are not currently planned for MorphOS support).
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2013, 12:02:40 PM »
Where can I find the list of planned G5 models to be supported by MorphOS? Maybe I can try to get the exact model...

Those are quiet, right?
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2013, 02:35:26 PM »
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Where can I find the list of planned G5 models to be supported by MorphOS? Maybe I can try to get the exact model...

Those are quiet, right?


Right now, Bigfoot has a 2.0 GHz air cooled G5 and a 2.7 GHz water cooled G5, so we can assume these are cool.
I feel safe enough with the 2.5 to have gotten one of these (specs are really close to the 2.7).
I am not sure about the 2.3 GHz G5.

And these are all the older models with AGP slots.

BTW - The G5s are not that quiet either.

So far, the Quicksilver I first had MorphOS installed on (with a passively cooled Radeon 9000) was the quietest.
But I have promised this one (upgraded to a 1333 MHz CPU and a 9800 video card) to haywirepc in PA.

The later MDD isn't really all that bad. I have had noisier PCs.

The earlier MDD will be fixed up (I might even change out the fan) and it will be donated to a developer.

Considering the current good prices on the 2.0 GHz G5s (and their 'no water needed' cooling) I'd aim for one of those
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2013, 03:30:51 PM »
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2013, 04:53:20 PM »
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Well, I can find 4 different G5 2.0 models @ everymac:

http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.0_dp.html
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.0_dp_2.html
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_2.0_dp_pci.html
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/specs/powermac_g5_dual_2.0.html

Which one should be the safest bet?
Rgds,

Eliminate the last one as it uses PCIe slots.

The bounty calls for a port to this specific model:

" PowerMac G5: A1047 (7,3 - M9747LL/A)"

I believe that is the system in your third reference.

But...the bounty also specifies "Support of other PowerMac G5 models is not precluded, but is not required"
And..as I have mentioned Mark also has a 2.7 first generation water cooled G5.
 
The first two systems you have listed have PCI-X slots and may not be that different then the 2.7.
But second system is a redesign and uses an unsupported video card which would require a video card swap.

Then there is Frank Mariak/Pega-1's mention that he might be willing to help with iMac compatibility.

Confused yet?

Then just stick with an early G5 2.0 with PCI expansion slots (not PCI-X), an 8X AGP Pro video card slot, and an ATI video card.
That was the only machine mentioned in the bounty.

Oh, and while it is probably overkill for MorphOS, a Radeon 9800Pro or XT would definately perform better then the stock 9600.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2013, 05:49:23 PM »
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It allows people to broadcast video from the PC over the Internet. There more practical applications i.e developers can stream video of builds of their program to other people in their team over the Internet or to people interested in the project.
No, that's still stupid, sorry. The only practical purpose for live-streaming of video over the Internet is for remote-desktop access, and framerate requirements are much lower on that.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »
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No, that's still stupid, sorry. The only practical purpose for live-streaming of video over the Internet is for remote-desktop access, and framerate requirements are much lower on that.


And impractical things like video chatting.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2013, 06:44:56 PM »
Yeah, that's dumb too.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2013, 06:55:17 PM »
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Yeah, that's dumb too.


Only if your girlfriend (or wife) isn't a hottie.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2013, 07:05:40 PM »
If you have a girlfriend/wife and you're not getting to appreciate said hottie in person, you need to reassess your priorities :P
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