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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #59 from previous page: May 16, 2013, 01:32:37 AM »
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That's not true at all. Modern processors are perfectly capable of handling things at the byte level, and some architectures even support bit-field instructions. Some architectures do have a fixed instruction size, so code size can't always be reduced by much, but bloating of RAM usage for data is purely down to programmer laziness.




Really?  I did not know that.  Every 64 bit executable I've seen has been larger than its 32 bit counterpart and ALWAYS used more RAM.
 

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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #60 on: May 16, 2013, 02:22:15 AM »
Crucial just came out with a 1TB for 500 bucks, a sequel to the M$, so it won't be long.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #61 on: May 16, 2013, 02:09:05 PM »
You can get a 3.2Tb SSD if you have 15 grand spare. But you can get 1Tb HDD for £40 ish so I wouldn't bother yet. Use SSD for the OS and frequently accessed files, and HDD for bulk storage.

As for HDD in the laptop, well I didn't want to pay very much for a work computer, that's the simple answer. You get what you pay for I guess but it still cost me more than I'd pay for a quiet desktop machine. I didn't expect that level of rubbish, at any rate.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #62 on: May 16, 2013, 11:31:05 PM »
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You know what, I'm going to go ahead and be "that guy" here, and say that there really is nothing that can't be done in some form on a reasonably powerful 68k Mac or Amiga that is really vitally worth doing on a computer at all. Movies, sure, or playback of recorded music (as opposed to synthesized music,) but those can be done perfectly satisfactorily on dedicated devices (VCRs, CD players) anyway.

Have you tried live video streaming on such hardware?   Have your tried to do live streaming while playing a game without it dropping a single frame?

Sure older hardware can still be used to do real work yet modern hardware is beyond what even super computers of the 1990's were capable of.

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Indeed. Modern software is increasingly buried under a mountain of glitz...Windows 7 won't even let you roll back to the simple 95 look anymore.

There still is tons of text based software for Linux and BSD.
 

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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #63 on: May 17, 2013, 12:13:47 AM »
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Have you tried live video streaming on such hardware?   Have your tried to do live streaming while playing a game without it dropping a single frame?
Actually? Yes. Take the Sega CD - FMV on a 12MHz 68000, even while playing a game! And that's got nothing on a mid-range 68k Mac or a moderately upgraded Amiga. Even a stock 1200 needs only a PCMCIA CD-ROM to whoop its ass.

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Sure older hardware can still be used to do real work yet modern hardware is beyond what even super computers of the 1990's were capable of.
Never claimed otherwise.

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There still is tons of text based software for Linux and BSD.
And if either of those were good desktop OSes, I might care.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #64 on: May 17, 2013, 12:28:14 AM »
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Sounds like the drive is trying to power down really aggressively to save juice, I have an Hitachi external that turns off every few seconds after I use it. Makes a lovely CLANK turning on.


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hdparm -B255

Et voila! No more HDD Power Management shenanigans. :)
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #65 on: May 17, 2013, 12:28:25 AM »
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You can get a 3.2Tb SSD if you have 15 grand spare. But you can get 1Tb HDD for £40 ish so I wouldn't bother yet. Use SSD for the OS and frequently accessed files, and HDD for bulk storage.

I picked up a couple of 4TB Seagate hard drives from NewEgg for $170.00 each to reward NewEgg for fighting against Evil Patent Trolls.  The drives seem nice and quiet so far but I haven't used them that much yet.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #66 on: May 17, 2013, 12:33:56 AM »
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Rumour has it iPhone 6 will have dual quad core ARM chips in it.


This has probably already been mentioned (I didn't read the entire thread), but Samsung Galaxy S4 already has four cores - at 1.8 GHz.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #67 on: May 17, 2013, 12:41:13 AM »
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This has probably already been mentioned (I didn't read the entire thread), but Samsung Galaxy S4 already has four cores - at 1.8 GHz.


Only in the States I think, rest of the world it has an 8-Core Exynos CPU.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #68 on: May 17, 2013, 12:44:02 AM »
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And if either of those were good desktop OSes, I might care.
I've been using Linux for years, whenever I have to use Windows for work purposes, I think "Windows... it's not ready for the desktop."

Linux has its faults but there's plenty to hate about Windows and MacOS, too. You just notice the awful bits you haven't got used to so much more.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #69 on: May 17, 2013, 12:44:45 AM »
" Powermac Quicksilver 933 with Radeon 9600 XT (r300) LOUDLY running MorphOS 2.7 without 3D."

Hey you think that is loud?
II have two MDDs and one is a earlier model with a fan that sounds like a jet engine.
I don't even notice the fan on my 9800XT.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #70 on: May 17, 2013, 12:50:37 AM »
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Actually? Yes. Take the Sega CD - FMV on a 12MHz 68000, even while playing a game! And that's got nothing on a mid-range 68k Mac or a moderately upgraded Amiga. Even a stock 1200 needs only a PCMCIA CD-ROM to whoop its ass.

The mega cd has two 68000's and it still can't manage transferring a full frame, which is why they skipped every other pixel. None of them had any real game play.
 

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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #71 on: May 17, 2013, 01:18:05 AM »
I could just use an Amiga with a Genlock and a VCR. Imagine that.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #72 on: May 17, 2013, 01:49:12 AM »
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I could just use an Amiga with a Genlock and a VCR. Imagine that.
Or a Laserdisc. Golly, it's like we've had dedicated hardware for video playback since decades ago or something!
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2013, 02:50:57 AM »
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Only in the States I think, rest of the world it has an 8-Core Exynos CPU.

Damn!
That is hot!
I didn't know that.
How come we get shorted?

Oh, checked it out.
The four A15 cores run at 200MHz slower than the US model.
And the other four cores are A7s at 1.2 GHz (big/little combination for improved battery life).

I'll take the US market model.
Or the Galaxy Note 3 when it is introduced.
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Re: Which way do you prefer or "Have it your way."
« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2013, 03:07:04 AM »
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Actually? Yes. Take the Sega CD - FMV on a 12MHz 68000, even while playing a game! And that's got nothing on a mid-range 68k Mac or a moderately upgraded Amiga. Even a stock 1200 needs only a PCMCIA CD-ROM to whoop its ass.

I meant streaming video onto the Internet, and by also playing games I mean that the computer can stream the output of the graphics of the game to the Internet while you are playing it (thus also sending it to your monitor).