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DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« on: May 04, 2013, 06:39:49 AM »
Ok, I'm having a difficult time on a reinstall in getting the system to recognize my UDB DVD-ROM and Flash Drive.  Can someone tell me what I need to do for these to auto-mount at start?  I've been searching and doing tons of trial & error for hours now and frankly I'm tired :)

This is an Amiga 3000, 16MB Fast, and 2MB Chip.  I had this working about 2 years ago then it went into storage and now I'm reinstalling and all Trident sees is my HUB and NetGear 10/100 dongle.  I cannot remember what I did 2 years ago to make it work... LOL

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »
Interesting. Hmm...

Make sure to do a class scan in Poseidon so that all the drivers are in fact loaded. Then make sure to Save your configuration and re-upload it to the Deneb's FlashROM. There's a Quick Setup menu option in Luciferin that automatically adds all Poseidon-related files to the upload queue.

Other things to note: Make sure fat95, NTFileSystem, and AmiCDFS are all in L: - these are the default handlers set in Trident to mount drives.

I also had to add a 1-second startup-delay on my global massstorage.class preferences to be able to boot with a Flash drive inserted.

One last possibility - not enough power. Can you add a self-powered hub?
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 04:36:48 PM »
Both drives are already on a self-powered hub.  I'll look into the other suggestions and see what I come up with.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 04:46:47 PM »
Nope still not working...

Opening DEVS:USBHardware/denebpiousb.device unit 0 failed to open (-1)
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 05:32:53 PM »
Ok I'm pretty irritated now.  This all appears to be due to a bad port on the DENEB as I started switching cables around and finally the flash and the CD-ROM drive are being recognized.

I really don't understand here.  I've touched hundreds of hard drives and expansion boards and not once has anything happened to them.  But the DENEB well I have no explanation why the one port (closest to the outside of the card) appears to be dead.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 06:05:11 PM »
Well, this has been fun - it's brought me back to the good ole days however I think it might be time to call it quits.  Contemplating putting this on ebay now... keep your eyes peeled.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 08:39:34 PM »
Drop Michael Böhmer a line - he might be able to help if there is a hardware issue.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2013, 09:13:33 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;733748
Drop Michael Böhmer a line - he might be able to help if there is a hardware issue.


I didn't think that it would be worth it but I just noticed on the support page that there is a 2 year warranty... and I got this (have receipt) from AmigaKit on 5/20/2011!  Maybe there is hope.  I'll see if there is a way to contact him but I haven't been able to find a link on the page yet.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2013, 11:07:01 PM »
Found the address.  Just did a clean install and confirmed that it's port 1 that appears to be dead.

Unfortunately without a SCSI HD I'm limited to booting to floppy and making a RAD based environment right now... was hoping to be able to install to the flash stick at some point but I'm unsure how to get the geometry of it.

Oh, and the powered hub I had was *ALSO* dead.  It has a power light that was lighting up but every port was dead.  I hooked it to my laptop and confirmed... cable good but hub actually dead.  Another part of my problem.

I have another port but cannot figure out where the power supply is...
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2013, 12:10:47 AM »
have you all the neccessary classes uploadad to the deneb flash rom and thus available at boot? you would need to prevent the stack reload while booting from usb device. there is some poseidon entry in the startup seqence i guess that has to be commented out in that case, just dont remember exactly what, and im not on amiga now.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2013, 12:31:28 AM »
I do appreciate the input, but I can't even get to that step.  I got as far as reading the geometry and realizing that it was jut a display issue... it is correctly sating it's got 2 partition of 1.9Gb each, but when I try to run a format - full or quick - the system freezes cold.

So with a blown port on the DENEB and a freezing machine every time I try to format the flash stick, or freezing sometimes when I reboot, or other times just seemingly at random, I'm really at the end of my rope.

I really don't want to give up but the fact of the matter is it's sucking the life out of me... and I just sit here letting it happen so I need to know when to say when. :(
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2013, 01:42:11 AM »
This might sound strange, but try setting the card to Zorro2 and using the Z2 driver (you have a choice of 3:  Z3, Z2 and PIO).  I had a problem with my A4000 setup a while back which I never resolved, but I could get the Deneb working properly with the Z2 jumper set.  Eventually I'll get around to sorting it out.
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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2013, 11:35:29 AM »
updated to the last firmware? there was a number of previously unknown issues with busters and elbox mediator boards, that had all been solves so far i can tell.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2013, 04:04:00 PM »
At this point, since I have no SCSI drive I'm in a pinch.  My brainiac idea was to set the DENEB to rescue mode, boot from floppy, install a large RAD (8 - 10MB), install 3.1 and rhe DENEB core, format the flash stick, install OS there, and start using it to boot from.

so since I'm in rescue mode, I'm already in Z2 mode.  I got as far as 2 partitions on the flash drive, but wen I try to format it, the machine simply freezes.

I'm unsure if the freezing is from the DENEB port being dead, some other issue on the board, rescue mode, or if it's something else on the A3K.


I'm pretty sure I already updated the board to V11 back when I originally got it.  I don't recall how to test for that though and I've since boxed everything up.

I'm in contact with Michael Boehmer about potentially sending it in to have it looked at, depending on cost of course.
 

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Re: DENEB - USB DVD-ROM & Flash Drive
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2013, 06:11:18 PM »
you can verify if its a dead port attaching the device to another, and actually using it on that other usb port if it works. if it doesnt its either the whole card thats dead (unlikely) or a faulty or incompatible device. i have not had an incompatible thumb or another drive on poseidon but who knows, besides if the thumb is older, they tend to break, consider good backups anyway. and for the time being getting a small scsi drive for next to nothing shouldnt be impossible. im certain its the approach/software problem.