Pegasos II vs AmigaOne

[takemehomegrandma]

Invisix wrote:
I know this has probably been brought up before, but which do you all perfer. Pegasos II or AmigaOne?

The Pegasos II seems to be the better system, and cheaper! However, I have a question reguarding MorphOS. Does MorphOS support Amiga games, and applications?

Thanks! :-D

The Pegasos wins by far IMO. Better price, better features, more OS's, etc, and it has MorphOS! (You won't be able to run MorphOS on the A1's ...  ;-)  :-P  :-D)

If it runs Amiga programs? Well, many people sees the Pegasos/MorphOS combinations as a Next Generation Amiga. Me myself is using my Pegasos/MorphOS as my *only* amiga since a year back. That should answer your question ... ;-)

[Amiperson2K3]

Both are too damn expensive and software side they offer nothing more than my x86 machine running Amithlon, if decent software ever comes out then ask the question again.

[xeron]

I got an AmigaOne, and I love it. Of course, I'm one of the lucky few with OS4 on mine, but really I'm very glad I bought it.

OS4 is really nice, even in its beta state. At first I was skeptical about some of the new features, like the idea of libraries having a new interface scheme, but now i've got it on my desktop and had a chance to try it out, it really kicks ass!

I've used MorphOS a couple of times, and it seems very nice, but IMHO its no substitute for the real thing ;-).

If you're on the fence, why not wait until OS4 is out and try them both before you buy.

[restore2003]

OS4.0 ofcourse, but i will wait for the next generation hardware for it, as i have a suspect it will be cheaper than the current A1

[IonDeluxe]

Peg II against AmigaOne
Hmm I guess peg II is ok, it has software by virtue of freeloading from the origonal base Amiga software, and some "native" applications.

Genesi is more professional if you count stooping to any method to discredit you opposition as "professional"
Morphos is still in beta state, has been for some time and will likely be for quite some time more.

Amiga on the other hand is being orchestrated by Amiga Inc whos business dealings are as yet dubious,. but are supported by two other comapanies with very good reputations that seem to have contacts and support of some rather impressive people. The OS is unavailable as yet except to beta testers, and soon the early bird purchasers.

Bottom line here is, if you really want to purchase an Amiga, go for the Aone, if you dont give a stuff but just want to run your old software and want to go PPC then the pegasos will probably fit your bill better....for now.

There really is not a great difference in the hardware, or the software at this point, so there is no real requirement for comparison as niether system is ready as a commercial product/OS combination as yet.

[masc]

A few months ago I was OS4.0 only then in late november I looked at the cost and I figured I could get a full PegII system for less-than half the price of a Amiga-One.  

I paid £212 for my PegII 600mhz plus ~£100 for extras that i couldn't pull from my old 1200.

I would have to pay £528 for the lowest spec AmigaOne plus the £100 extras and the extra for OS4.0

The costs:  PegII £312 amione: £628+OS4.0 (probably ~£700 inc OS4)

Thats LESS than half price for a much better board.  We are talking £300 for the name Amiga!!  It's not worth it

After the prices opened my eyes I started to seriously look at morphos and I have never looked back.

Put simply there is nothing Amione has that jusitfys the considerable extra expense.

[KennyR]

@iondeluxe

What you call freeloading is just what users want. They want reasonably priced hardware and an Amiga-like OS that is available and usable now, with software. Trying to claim that there is something wrong and bad with letting them choose just because it doesn't favour the AmigaIncONE is just sour grapes.

[bloodline]

KennyR wrote:
@iondeluxe

What you call freeloading is just what users want. They want reasonably priced hardware and an Amiga-like OS that is available and usable now, with software. Trying to claim that there is something wrong and bad with letting them choose just because it doesn't favour the AmigaIncONE is just sour grapes.

Amiga.org's bastion of Socalisim defends the capitalist idea :-)

I'm with you Kenny!!!

[CU_AMiGA]

They are both excellent machines. Pegasos II looks much nicer though, not as much as iMAC though.

[takemehomegrandma]

CU_AMiGA wrote:
They are both excellent machines. Pegasos II looks much nicer though, not as much as iMAC though.

But you won't be able to run MorphOS on that mac either! ;-) At least not yet!

[IonDeluxe]

I really dont give a rats ass if they take advantage of old software or not, look at linux and windows. I think thats great. What I dont like is the image they promote as "supporting the Amiga community" when in fact what they are doing is hijacking that said community to support themselves in direct competition to the real amiga solution.
Even Linux has more integrity than that.
I am purely sick of the lies and other rubbish spouted by Genesi that is completely ans utterly forgiven by the blue crowd, not to mention completely ignored forgotten and swept under the carpet! It just promotes more of the same behavior.
Same goes for the coupon debacle with the red crowd and the general level of behaviour all round.

There is a sevre lack of integrity with the companies and organizeation related to this community( with a couple exceptions), and the only way this is gunna change is if we the community pull them up and take them to task over it.

Now if you want to relegate my opinon to the lvl of "sour grapes" without any concrete argument to back it up then be my guest, I am quite used to even the moderators of this site not adhering to thier own rules and further fomenting discontent to let such a thing get under my skin.

In any case, this entire topic is little more than barely vieled flamebait as as I have said, any such comparisons are premature as niether solution is yet in the state of a commercially complete hardware/os product at this stage.

[rayt]

I think I will run OS4 on my A4000/PPC and will maybe buy an MicroAone when it comes out. It looks very interesting.
I would of course also use morphos on my cyberstorm if they had released it like they promised last year.

@ IonDeluxe

What I dont like is the image they promote as "supporting the Amiga community" when in fact what they are doing is hijacking that said community to support themselves in direct competition to the real amiga solution.

I don´t think so. Look what say said about the amiga and pegasos on morphos-news.de/ann.lu:

"In the meanwhile, what is the market for the Pegasos (while the eclipsis is in development)? Probably: 1) Linux users, 2) embedded system developers, 3) application developers that want to do rendering on stacked boards with dual processors or build something very special that has a huge amount of processing power... "

"Will "Amiga" be a big market for us? We do not think so. First, because we are not an official Amiga piece of hardware, and secondly because we are using MorphOS. The two just don't go together."

They also did not pay their advertisement on ann.lu anymore and I havent seen a pegasos banner on amiga.org for a long time either. So maybe they already found their new market? :-o

[Lando]

In any case, this entire topic is little more than barely vieled flamebait as as I have said

Why do you say that?  So far we've had only mature comments from people stating their preferred system and their reasons for choosing it.  No flames, and no arguments.  

[realstar]

Pegasos II.

You can read my review/overview here:
http://www.telusplanet.net/public/samel/review2/peg2review.html

[bloodline]

rayt wrote:
I think I will run OS4 on my A4000/PPC and will maybe buy an MicroAone when it comes out. It looks very interesting.
I would of course also use morphos on my cyberstorm if they had released it like they promised last year.

@ IonDeluxe

What I dont like is the image they promote as "supporting the Amiga community" when in fact what they are doing is hijacking that said community to support themselves in direct competition to the real amiga solution.

I don´t think so. Look what say said about the amiga and pegasos on morphos-news.de/ann.lu:

"In the meanwhile, what is the market for the Pegasos (while the eclipsis is in development)? Probably: 1) Linux users, 2) embedded system developers, 3) application developers that want to do rendering on stacked boards with dual processors or build something very special that has a huge amount of processing power... "

"Will "Amiga" be a big market for us? We do not think so. First, because we are not an official Amiga piece of hardware, and secondly because we are using MorphOS. The two just don't go together."

They also did not pay their advertisement on ann.lu anymore and I havent seen a pegasos banner on amiga.org for a long time either. So maybe they already found their new market? :-o

Yup, The BAF's can pat themselves on the back and feel happy that the only company to actually put any money into the Amiga Market has decided to leave.

To all of you, I send great big well done!

[IonDeluxe]

@rayt

That may be what they say there, however it is at odds greatly with how BBRV has conducted himself on this site, and others.

@bloodline
Genesi was never part of this community, they were competing with this community trying to draw off users to thier own community.Now that they have done that about as much as they are able they are off on thier merry way.In fact your very attitude evidenced by your derogitive "BAF" shows just how effective that campaign has been.