Pegasos II vs AmigaOne

[iamaboringperson]

BouncingAyatollah wrote:

:lol:

[lempkee]

masc: you are spreading FUD atm.

1. where have u heard the OS4 price?

2. Who said Earlybird users have to pay extra for Os4 ? (ITS BUNDLED WITH THE HARDWARE!)

3. peg 2 is only 100 usd cheaper than the a1xe G4 here in norway! ,  oh yeah u forgot to mention that u used the EXCHANGE prices (where u deliver in your old motherboar (peg1) and gets a peg2.

4. shame about you closing your eyes, but then again its your choice, and thats the beauty of having aros/amigaos/morphos choices and hardware choices.

no harm intended but u where insinuating too much and u forgot some facts.

[Warface]

A1 will get the best support for games since Hyperion continues the development of Warp3D. AOS 4 will come with UAE for older games.

Hyperion is a company with limited resources. It's yet to see if they can alone develop an OS and port games in paralell, and supply their solution with applications alone in the meantime.

MorphOS already has a very nice WarpOS/Warp3D support via wrappers. I can play Shogo (a Hyperion game) anytime on my Pegasos - can you do the same on OS4? No. You have to purchase it once more, in the form of a "native" version.

And it's not everything. JunGL is in development for some time and will provide full OpenGL support for MorphOS. Do I have to explain it's expected impact?

Not to mention UAE 0.8.22 which runs happily here.

We have plenty programs which were developed natively for MorphOS and later had AmigaOS versions as well. This is the way how the community indirectly benefits from MorphOS development.

With Pegasos/MorphOS you get free SDK and the SuperBundle.

With AmigaONE you still get nothing but a Linux with UAE. (Sarcasm on)With "buggy" drivers, which can't support ArticiaS features, thus corrupting data in some cases.(Sarcasm off)

If all goes well, you will soon receive a pre-release of OS4. It will have (according to forum posts) neither WarpOS/PowerUP support, nor native Picasso96, JIT...

For quite a long time the two solutions will be no match for each other. And if you want to wait for a full comparison, you may have to wait for years.

You can get frustration on both systems. The difference is with AmigaONE you can expect to have a hell a lot more for much more, and far less on Pegasos II - for almost half the price.

Another slight addition: MAI northbridges are present in the AmigaONE and the Teron. Both are MAI products... Many projects which used or planned to use the Articia northbridge folded, or switched to another one.

While the Marvel northbridges (one of which is used in the Pegasos II) was recently chosen by IBM as well.

[cockney_dave]

Oh dear, here we go again :-(

Might buy an Amiga One when OS 4 comes out, but only if I can run a TV card in it and the upgrade from my 1200T doesn't cost a fortune (wishful thinking!?), otherwise will probably stick with 1200T - not feeling an upgade urgency really, which is unusual :-D

Quite excited about the mini ITX A1 though, would be nice to build and Win MediaCenter-style Amiga in a neat little box with DVD, TV, cordless keyboard etc.

[itix]

3. peg 2 is only 100 usd cheaper than the a1xe G4 here in norway! , oh yeah u forgot to mention that u used the EXCHANGE prices (where u deliver in your old motherboar (peg1) and gets a peg2.

By the way how much A1 and PegII costs in Norway?

[Acill]

Well being a long time Amiga fan and curent A3000/PPC user I want OS4. I plan to put it on my A3000 to test it out. If I had to choose I would pick the Peg II because its out and has proven to run Amiga apps better then even a Amiga can do as long as they are not hardware hitting apps. I've seen it in action and love it. Now if the AmigaOne gets made with better hardware (The Peg II is much more advances) then it may win me over. You cant say AOS4 is out and working on AmigaOne because the masses cant use it, only the few beta testers that got picked. If it runs as well as they sai t does then they should start pachaging it and get it out so it can get some exposure. The the WORLD beta test it. We just want the damn OS to use! MOS has us all beat and is only moving ahead more and more by the day.

[Alkemyst]

MorphOS already has a very nice WarpOS/Warp3D support via wrappers. I can play Shogo (a Hyperion game) anytime on my Pegasos - can you do the same on OS4? No. You have to purchase it once more, in the form of a "native" version.

Who at hyperion told you that you have to purchase native Aos4 versions of their games all over again ?

[QuikSanz]

Hi,
The decision has been made. I'll be buying an A1 mobo within the next 3 weeks.
I support Amiga. Without them Morph would not exist at all.

Cheers,
Chris

[NeRP]

"Now if the AmigaOne gets made with better hardware (The Peg II is much more advances) then it may win me over"

WTF?

How is it that this legendary Pegasos 2 is so much more "advanced" then?

Don't you dare say "DDR RAM" either, as I'm quite sure you won't find much to support your "advanced" claims about the speed.

About the only thing the Peg 2 is....  is cheaper.  It's parent company heavily subsidized Peg1 boards to "key" people of the community, so they can come on here to tell people like me that we're all "BAFs".  And for the people who like to say that Phase5 built the original PPC boards and kept the Amiga market alive, they also stole a ####load of preorder money from people.  Great guys, honest!

[SHADES]

I'm sorry to even say this, but all this is testing is one version of say Linux against another. It's all complete BS.
You can't compare two products that are designed for different things. There is NO AMIGA OS realesed yet, it is not going to run on a Peg so far, so unless you're willing to compare installs of Linux, don't bother.

If you think that this is the only version or revision of the AMIGAOne Hardware base, your all misled. There could be another 16 vendors that produce motherboards etc for the AMIGAOs with a lisence from AMIGA, that's the whole point. There may be custom graphics hardware built, ATI and Nvidia both sell their GPUs to anyone whao want's them, we could end up with a hybrid 3d card with AGA compatibility on an AGP bus or something, or a 68k harware accelarator on PCI, the sky's the limit.

Untill there is an AMIGA OS product to evaluate, comparisons are useless as there is no real product to compare.

Who knows, if there's enough interest, MSI may build an AMIGA  mainboard. Who knows.
Useless discusssion. Of course things will change and develop. This should be in slashdot. Linux Vs Linux lol

[Hooligan_DCS]

>Hi,
The decision has been made. I'll be buying an A1 mobo within the next 3 weeks.
I support Amiga. Without them Morph would not exist at all.
>Cheers, Chris


Yeah, reverse psychology! When 8 out of 10 suggest to go for Pegasos, you go for A1 :lol:

[TheMagicM]

I'm proud of you guys..it brings a tear to my eye.. so far no bad trolling.  

I disagree with the comment  "if OS4 was out at the ame time MorphOS was you would choose OS4".   I didnt see it that way.  Here in the USA the Peg I was $199 while the A1 was what $500 or so (or was it more?  800? I cannot remember but it was VERY expensive)  To me that was too much money, even if it had a operating system (just for arguments sake saying OS4 was already done).

[NeRP]

"Yeah, reverse psychology! When 8 out of 10 suggest to go for Pegasos, you go for A1"

8 out of 10 Pegasos owners, that is.

[Dalamar]

Well since I've been out of the Amiga community so long I missed out on a lot of the history here.  I will say that right now my classic stuff is keeping me more than amused and I have vowed that I will not look at the new stuff until I can see AOSS4 and Morph at the same time.  It's the only way to do a good evaluation of what to buy.  

[Hammer]

@realstar

Lame v3.93 tests:
Encode a 40MB 16bit stereo AIFF into MP3 128Kbps - 1:02 secs
Encode a 5.6MB 16bit stereo AIFF into MP3 128Kbps - 10 secs

What happened here i.e. 40MB yields 1:02 sec, while the smaller file 5.6MB yields 10 secs?  

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Nerp

8 out of 10 Pegasos owners, that is.

Well, no-one is stopping Amiga/AmigaOne-owners to speak out their opinion aswell.One could get the idea that my word weights less only because I am an owner of Pegasos, and therefore am a lesser person  :-)

But it's been like this always. There is supposed to be several hundred A1 owners out there, but somehow only a handful of them are active. Respect to Xeron for standing up for what he believes in, and always even backing it up with good reasoning.

Your comment was a bit unrequired too, a simple "I have an A1, and I am OS4 betatester, go for A1 as you'll love it" would have done it.