SCART question

[Gavilan]

Hi: i have the chance of getting a Philips Matchline 33" TV. It is a PAL M- PAL-N and NTSC system. Among many other features, it has SCART connectors.

My doubt: if i connect my Amiga trough SCART, does the TV system have influence? I mean, if my Amiga is european PAL (PAL B), would i be able to connect it trough SCART and watch in colour, or it would be out of sync/black and white?

Thanks

[spirantho]

First thing to know is that PAL-N is 50Hz, same as Europe... so you won't get picture roll.

We use PAL-I here in the UK, and Europe uses PAL B/G usually - but the difference is just in the sound carrier location. If you're using SCART, the sound is carried seperately anyway.

SCART provides three methods of getting the data from the machine to the TV: Composite, S-Video and RGB.

If your TV supports composite and your machine supports composite (which Amigas do), you will get a composite picture.
If your TV supports S-VIDEO only, you will get a composite picture probably, but possibly nothing at all.
If your TV supports RGB, and your machine supports RGB (which Amigas do) you will get a very clear picture.

Basically, I'd say you have a very good chance of getting a very good picture with sound, but you should invest in an Amiga->SCART RGB cable rather than using the composite video plug on the Amiga (or A520 modulator) itself.

Hope that helps!

[carvedeye]

should invest in an Amiga->SCART RGB cable rather than using the composite video plug on the Amiga (or A520 modulator) itself.

Hope that helps!

I completely agree i to have one and the picture quality is fantastic, i have mine set to 1280 x 512 Interlaced and the picture is amazing

[Zac67]

Yes, ditch the A520 and get a SCART cable. Composite sucks, RF even more so.

[psxphill]

SCART provides three methods of getting the data from the machine to the TV: Composite, S-Video and RGB.

If your Amiga SCART lead only connects to the 23 pin D connector, then it will almost certainly only have RGB available to the TV.

[Speelgoedmannetje]

First thing to know is that PAL-N is 50Hz, same as Europe... so you won't get picture roll.

SCART is RGBs, as is the 1084s I hooked up an NTSC Apple II GS to my PAL 1084s and I didn't get a picture roll, so I guess the sync's allright as well

[Gavilan]

Thanks for your answers.

Yes, my idea is to use that tv with SCART to Amiga RGB port. No doubt about that. I will invest in that cable for sure.

But...concerning different PAL video systems, here in Argentina, i would need a transcoder/converter (cant remember the exact name) to be able to see in colour and not b/w the european PAL tv system. So, i was wondering if this would be the same case with this tv which can handle argentinian/brazilian/american tv modes (pal n/pal m/ntsc). My Amiga is european, so i guess tv out is pal b/g/i, not the ones we use here.

To sum it up: if i use the scart/rgb cable do the Amiga and the tv have to have the same tv system, or it has nothing to do using this cable? Correct me if im wrong with this example: if i have an american Amiga using a 1084 made in germany, using rgb cable, will i see it in full colour? And viceversa.

Please somebody confirm me this! Im talking about a 33" lovely Philips crt tv, which i think i will also be able to use it with many consoles as well

Thanks!

[mongo]

Thanks for your answers.

Yes, my idea is to use that tv with SCART to Amiga RGB port. No doubt about that. I will invest in that cable for sure.

But...concerning different PAL video systems, here in Argentina, i would need a transcoder/converter (cant remember the exact name) to be able to see in colour and not b/w the european PAL tv system. So, i was wondering if this would be the same case with this tv which can handle argentinian/brazilian/american tv modes (pal n/pal m/ntsc). My Amiga is european, so i guess tv out is pal b/g/i, not the ones we use here.

To sum it up: if i use the scart/rgb cable do the Amiga and the tv have to have the same tv system, or it has nothing to do using this cable? Correct me if im wrong with this example: if i have an american Amiga using a 1084 made in germany, using rgb cable, will i see it in full colour? And viceversa.

Please somebody confirm me this! Im talking about a 33" lovely Philips crt tv, which i think i will also be able to use it with many consoles as well

Thanks!

PAL and NTSC standards define both frame rates and colour encoding. If you are using RGB, then the colour encoding is not used. You will always get full colour using RGB. So as long as your TV can handle the frame rate then it should work fine.

[mis]

Hey Carved Eye

Is it that cable that is sold on amigakid your using ?
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=226

or is it somthing specially modded ?

How do you get 1200x500 on a scart cable on a normal tv
isnt a scart signal limited to pal overscan as max

what have you done to get the extre res here ?

[utri007]

Important note Most likely your TV has only one SCART and RGP second one is SCART and composite.

Go for it it, will work!

[mis]

yes the tv i use now has only 1 scart

and a component input in the side.

its a LG L172WT  

Is that a probem, will that not be able to do that resolution
and in case, how do i get that resolution, seems like theres none called that in the screenmode settings

[utri007]

mis: What Amiga you are using? Only AGA amigas can do 1280x512

[mis]

it is an amiga 1200 with acc card i have

[mis]

i just checked i do have super highres interlaced wich should be 1280x512 it seems , though mine says 1344x542 for some reason.

and i can change to that but its not a prety sight and the fonts look very small and someway distorded in the text.

is that do to ime running the stardart composite out from the a1200

that would clear up totaly like digital lcd with a scart cable like that ?

[carvedeye]

Hey Carved Eye

Is it that cable that is sold on amigakid your using ?
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=226

or is it somthing specially modded ?

How do you get 1200x500 on a scart cable on a normal tv
isnt a scart signal limited to pal overscan as max

what have you done to get the extre res here ?

Yes thats the one i got and it works a treat

I was playing around with the screenmodes and the interlaced mode works a treat its like having an RTG in your amiga