Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?

[nicholas]

Don't get me wrong HayWire, there is a lot to be respected about Linux, I like the ad free software and such, the secure browsing, and the fact that it is not controlled by a corporate entity, but alas...


I'm not one of those guys who just wants a nice GUI based system where all the software is pre-compiled, and I can pretty much just drag and drop drivers where ever I need them etc. Amiga and BeOS spoiled me I guess you could say. I took classes on Linux years ago, but every class I felt like not showing up again and really only did so because I got along so well with everyone else in the class, but ya, I did not like the learning curve that was required for that kind of freedom, so I'll settle with the Freedom that Amiga OS, MorphOS, AROS, and Haiku provide also.

Command line Haiku is pretty much identical to Linux so if you get comfortable with it on Haiku then Linux will become much easier for you.

BTW: If you are interested I ported the command line Amiga module player/emulator to Haiku a few weeks back.

http://ports.haiku-files.org/ticket/695

[XDelusion]

Command line Haiku is pretty much identical to Linux so if you get comfortable with it on Haiku then Linux will become much easier for you.

BTW: If you are interested I ported the command line Amiga module player/emulator to Haiku a few weeks back.

http://ports.haiku-files.org/ticket/695

First off, COOL MAN! I didn't realize you coded, didn't realize you were a Haiku user either!

Secondly, I don't mind a little command line here and there, I've used it plenty under all the Amiga OS flavors as well as on Haiku. I find it enjoyable for basic needs like launching a game of Odamex with a special file attached. Or better yet, I like creating scripts for my Amiga Icons to launch pWADs and such for Odamex or what have you.

What I hate is when my system isn't working quite right and I have to fully depend upon a crap load of command line entries in order to work things out, and I hate it even more when I get strange and elusive error messages that only the seasoned Linux user understands. That is when for me, Linux ceases to be fun.

Others may like that depth of control and I think it is a nice option, but to be something that is still mandatory, that is annoying to me.

Another thing that makes Linux confusing is all the distributions, built upon this kernel and that, this GUI and that, so on and so on. It's like there is no standard...

Long live Haiku! I can't wait to see how things go after 1.0 hits the net!

[TheBilgeRat]

Long live Haiku! I can't wait to see how things go after 1.0 hits the net!

IF 1.0 hits

I like Haiku as well, but it is taking its sweet time to get here.  Also, while I love tinkering with it on my P4, it needs to get going on the 64 bit bandwagon.  Who knows, tho - its really a great time for OSes.

[CritAnime]

My tutor at college told me to love the command line and always to love the command line. And to this day I install everything via command line lol. There is rarely a day goes by I am not using SUDO for something. Usually along the lines of sudo apt-get install lol.
 
I am sad that Crunch Bang didn't work out for you I would be interested to know more about what went wrong for you. Also did you use the official stable release or did you grab the testing waldorf release?
 
Waldorf did have loads of bugs when I used it but thats the nature of testing releases.
 
Edit====
oops looks like Waldorf was promoted to default download. While it's stable(ish) it's running Debian Wheezy which is debian testing. You will need Statler which is the stable release and prefferably with BPO (backports) which contains newer stable software.
 
http://crunchbang.org/download/statler
 
But then again given your previous attempts with Linux you might not want to go near another Linux box again lol. Also on a side note the new Fedora release has come out. This is another Debian based system but uses Gnome 3 or KDE. I put it on a friends netbook and it liked it.

[stefcep2]

I gave up on Linux in 2009: wasted far too much of my life trying to get far too many simple things to work.  Initially I liked the learning,  but after 3 years I said F this and moved on to Win 7.

As it happens I just resurrected a Presario 2100 for a friend's kid with bits and pieces from the local council e-waste dumpsters:
 
Upped the ram to 1 gig,

found a 160 gig hard drive 7200 rpm amongst the rubble,

added a wireless card form another dead laptop,

it had a Win XP Home license so I just used my copy of XP Home SP3, everyhting but the ATI display driver worked, 5 minutes on HP's website and I had the ATI driver installed

found some Win Media  player codes to enable DVD playback

installed PC Tools Free antivirus.

2 hours of my time and everything works

Can't see myself installing Linux again TBH.

[CritAnime]

Linux isn't complicated once you get past some of the hurdles such as driver support. I often find it easier to preform minor to every day computer tasks in linux than I do in Windows these days. Even Major to complex tasks I can do relativity easier. Such as monitoring and maintaining networked systems and external drives.

[nicholas]

IF 1.0 hits

I like Haiku as well, but it is taking its sweet time to get here.  Also, while I love tinkering with it on my P4, it needs to get going on the 64 bit bandwagon.  Who knows, tho - its really a great time for OSes.

Et voila!

http://haiku-files.org/unsupported-builds/x86_64/

[nicholas]

First off, COOL MAN! I didn't realize you coded, didn't realize you were a Haiku user either!

Secondly, I don't mind a little command line here and there, I've used it plenty under all the Amiga OS flavors as well as on Haiku. I find it enjoyable for basic needs like launching a game of Odamex with a special file attached. Or better yet, I like creating scripts for my Amiga Icons to launch pWADs and such for Odamex or what have you.

What I hate is when my system isn't working quite right and I have to fully depend upon a crap load of command line entries in order to work things out, and I hate it even more when I get strange and elusive error messages that only the seasoned Linux user understands. That is when for me, Linux ceases to be fun.

Others may like that depth of control and I think it is a nice option, but to be something that is still mandatory, that is annoying to me.

Another thing that makes Linux confusing is all the distributions, built upon this kernel and that, this GUI and that, so on and so on. It's like there is no standard...

Long live Haiku! I can't wait to see how things go after 1.0 hits the net!

There is nothing inherently complicated about UNIX, it's actually quite simple, it's just different to what you already know that's all.

I've been using it since the mid-90's so it's what I'm most familiar with.

The best UNIX for ex-Windows users is probably OSX, closely followed by Android.

Edit: Try this Linux distro http://code.google.com/p/android-x86/downloads/detail?name=android-x86-4.2-20130228.iso&can=2&q=

[persia]

The great thing about Linux is that it will usually run on old computers, find a P4 in the dumpster?  Windows 7 or 8? Fuhgettaboutit!  Linux will just hum along on it....

[TheBilgeRat]

Also on a side note the new Fedora release has come out. This is another Debian based system but uses Gnome 3 or KDE. I put it on a friends netbook and it liked it.

Fedora - Debian based?  Er...

[B00tDisk]

This thread is piled deep with hilarity.

[CritAnime]

Fedora - Debian based?  Er...

Forgiveth me I did mean red hat. A 14 hour shift does make one a bit dopy.:laugh1:

This thread is piled deep with hilarity.

How so?

[XDelusion]

The best UNIX for ex-Windows users is probably OSX, closely followed by Android.

Oh Lord, please don't think of me as an Ex-Windows user. Think of me as an Atari DOS user, an Amiga user, MorphOS user, Haiku user, and well ya, even a little DOS and Windows, though I am not proud of my Windows use, I consider it a vice I must bear with till my other OS' are able to get tools that do what I need such as editing DOOM and being able to edit any audio or video file to what ever extent I desire.

[nicholas]

Oh Lord, please don't think of me as an Ex-Windows user. Think of me as an Atari DOS user, an Amiga user, MorphOS user, Haiku user, and well ya, even a little DOS and Windows, though I am not proud of my Windows use, I consider it a vice I must bear with till my other OS' are able to get tools that do what I need such as editing DOOM and being able to edit any audio or video file to what ever extent I desire.

Have you seen this?

http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/

[nicholas]

Or this?

http://ubuntustudio.org/tour/

[nicholas]

Or this even?

http://www.dynebolic.org/