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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #89 from previous page: March 17, 2013, 02:38:50 AM »
On a side note I also remember when the do it yourself ADSL kits, 512kbs, came out in the UK and the sodding modem would not work with my rig at the time and I had to wait till I could get my old V92 modem back to download a random hack to make it work. Even then it was hit and miss. )

I remember my first linux box, it was built from parts all specifically chosen because there were linux support or drivers for each part. I think the first linux I ran was red-hat 3.0 or maybe it was even 2.0?

People bitch about aros needing certain sound, network or video cards and not enough drivers, but linux was exactly like that once upon a time.

Most stuff in linux works right out of the box, but some freeware purists distros (Like dynebolic) don't include proprietary drivers, which means alot of hardware won't work. If your okay with closed source drivers most computers can run linux happily now.

I will use proprietary or closed source drivers, because honestly you just have to sometimes, which sucks. BUT I do agree with Linus Torvalds when he said "**** YOU NIVIDIA."

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2013, 01:32:42 PM »
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Free Software distros (Like dynebolic) don't include proprietary drivers

Fixed that for you.

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2013, 09:50:03 PM »
What about installing OS4(.1) http://www.os4online.com ??? :D
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2013, 10:11:48 PM »
I sure am glad OS 4 looks like Windows at that! ;)
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2013, 10:41:14 PM »
Well, i was really surprised how fast this package is compared to standard ubuntu distros.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #94 on: March 28, 2013, 01:46:08 AM »
So.... there are said to be open source Radeon drivers that come with pretty much ever Linux distro now a days?

How come everything loads so slowly then? How come the screen refreshes slowly? I thought I was missing the video drivers, but I guess they were installed all along. Either Linux blows hard core, or this laptop was just a way over rated flop by Dell.
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #95 on: March 28, 2013, 01:59:04 AM »
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So.... there are said to be open source Radeon drivers that come with pretty much ever Linux distro now a days?

How come everything loads so slowly then? How come the screen refreshes slowly? I thought I was missing the video drivers, but I guess they were installed all along. Either Linux blows hard core, or this laptop was just a way over rated flop by Dell.


Sounds like you are running in vesa mode rather than using the Radeon driver.

What OS are you running?
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #96 on: March 28, 2013, 02:14:33 AM »
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Sounds like you are running in vesa mode rather than using the Radeon driver.

What OS are you running?


This experience is with nearly ever Linux distro mentioned here. Ubuntu included.
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #97 on: March 28, 2013, 02:40:22 AM »
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This experience is with nearly ever Linux distro mentioned here. Ubuntu included.


What version of Ubuntu and what model number of Radeon?

Did you check the Supported Hardware list before you installed the OS?
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #98 on: March 28, 2013, 03:47:22 AM »
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What version of Ubuntu and what model number of Radeon?

Did you check the Supported Hardware list before you installed the OS?

Latest Ubuntu

Radeon X1200

No, I'm not installing Amithlon
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2013, 08:41:16 AM »
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Latest Ubuntu

Radeon X1200

No, I'm not installing Amithlon


OK, you need to open the software sources app (I forget it's name as I use KDE) from the gui or just type 'sudo software-properties-gtk' without the quotes into a terminal window and press enter.

Click the right-most tab 'Drivers' and install the driver for your Radeon from there.
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #100 on: March 28, 2013, 11:00:24 AM »
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I gave up on Linux in 2009: wasted far too much of my life trying to get far too many simple things to work.  Initially I liked the learning,  but after 3 years I said F this and moved on to Win 7.

As it happens I just resurrected a Presario 2100 for a friend's kid with bits and pieces from the local council e-waste dumpsters:
 
Upped the ram to 1 gig,

found a 160 gig hard drive 7200 rpm amongst the rubble,

added a wireless card form another dead laptop,

it had a Win XP Home license so I just used my copy of XP Home SP3, everyhting but the ATI display driver worked, 5 minutes on HP's website and I had the ATI driver installed

found some Win Media  player codes to enable DVD playback

installed PC Tools Free antivirus.

2 hours of my time and everything works

Can't see myself installing Linux again TBH.


It really makes my heart sink when i read things like your post.

Linux has come a long way in the past few years. For the record I gave up on windows ~2001 why ? at the time it felt more like amigaOS than windows , having a proper command line and a great community of developers. Open Source (in my mind) was very much like the PD community i loved on the amiga. My understanding of Open Source, the ethical and political implications of it have long since changed now as i understand it more!

I've been using Linux day to day. When i purchase a new computer / hardware - I ALWAYS ensure that the hardware I buy is supported by linux - that goes for laptops. USB devices , printers etc. Since i took that small effort to be careful I have found that Linux "just works(tm)". I put the install media in and 10mins later i have everything working . I dont really need Antivirus , and i dont have to reformat and re-install every six months to keep things running smoothly.

I dont have to scour the net for outdated drivers or cranky 3rd party apps that dont work properly as everything is built right in to the linux kernel or userspace tools. Compare that to the brand new Mac Mini on my desk (currently switched off). I plug my USB MidiSport interface in and the mac wont recognise it - i would download drivers if i could but their are none that work with Mountain Lion.

Similar situation with a pro-end USB audio interface I have. Dont even get me started on the USB keyboard and mouse. Its the same situation with windows although for the most parts its easier to find and download drivers. This dissappointed me about the Mac - i expected it to me more like linux in this regard. I've come to expect it of windows and nothing changes here in this regard.

Two points

1) dont purchase hardware for any operating system without checking its well supported first.
2) you stand a much better chance of having old hardware working on an open source operating system than a brand new one.

you wouldnt admit to buying software / hardware for other platforms without checking first would you?

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #101 on: March 28, 2013, 11:05:15 AM »
Just an afterthought - I actually bought the Mac Mini to become my music studio PC - and have found that im preferring to use Renoise on ubuntu! With "Bitwig" studio on the horizon http://www.bitwig.com/bitwig-studio (Ableton killer!) i dont think its going to get any use in that department!

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #102 on: March 28, 2013, 10:45:21 PM »
It appears that AMD have abandoned all driver support for the X1200 card (For Windows and Linux) so the proprietary driver for it will not work on any version of Xorg past 1.5 which means you'll need to install an OS that has that particular ancient version of X if you want to use AMD's driver (Such as Ubuntu 8.04).

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.4/release/
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #103 on: March 28, 2013, 10:57:19 PM »
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It appears that AMD have abandoned all driver support for the X1200 card (For Windows and Linux) so the proprietary driver for it will not work on any version of Xorg past 1.5 which means you'll need to install an OS that has that particular ancient version of X if you want to use AMD's driver (Such as Ubuntu 8.04).

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04.4/release/


What a bunch of crap! Grrrr.... :/


Thanks for the heads up!
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #104 on: March 28, 2013, 11:00:11 PM »
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What a bunch of crap! Grrrr.... :/


Thanks for the heads up!

I'm wondering whether your laptop would work as a Hackintosh?
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