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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2013, 05:13:41 PM »
So what happens when you try to get PAL on a PC TFT monitor ?
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2013, 05:14:46 PM »
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Yep, the only limitations that affect me are the lack of AGA and the inability to run OS3.9.  However, I find the OS3.1 install of ClassicWB on my HDF more than satisfactory.


I wouldn't mind a nice classic wb hdf suitable for the minimig...
 

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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2013, 05:18:25 PM »
A question for you MiniMig owners -

Since the MiniMig is a re-implementation (reverse engineering) of the original Amiga, are there still any incompatibilities?

Didn't they use some of the knowledge and understanding of the Amiga gleaned from UAE development in the development of the MiniMig?

I understand it is FPGA hardware, but is it ABSOLUTELY 100% compatible with an actual A500, or are there still some things you can throw at it which doesn't behave right and needs to be improved?
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2013, 05:21:26 PM »
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So what happens when you try to get PAL on a PC TFT monitor ?


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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 05:25:57 PM »
He he :D What I'm trying to find out is if the Minimig is doing the same kind of magic as an Indy flicker fixer scandoubler, for example, does. Will it work anywhere, or do you have to pick screens carefuly ?
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2013, 05:38:01 PM »
I would hope so. I used a Indi ECS with the monitor I intend to use for the minimig and had no issues showing either 50hz or 60hz.

Ok another question. I have seen the v2 Minimig on another site. I take it this is a prototype.

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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2013, 05:59:34 PM »
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So what happens when you try to get PAL on a PC TFT monitor ?

on my 32" samsung TV I get a picture, but its cut-off. On my LG 65" I get nothing.

works perfectly on my old viewsonic, but thats 720 and its old and the color is nowhere near as good as the newer ones.

i forgot to mention that someone said that they got a 56HZ PAL screen going(when 50 would not work) by overclocking everything, but I don't know what is involved, and then it throws off the timing, etc...
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 06:16:52 PM »
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Does Minimig output 50 or 60 HZ ?
Too bad about the parallel port really. No 4 player games...

EDIT:
Maybe my Hz question is a bit unclear.
Can Minimig be used with 60Hz TFT monitors ? Or do you need a 50Hz capable screen, like a LCD TV ?


It's the same as a real Amiga with a bog-standard Scan Doubler.  PAL modes will require 50Hz and NTSC 60Hz.  So, CRTs are fine, but be careful which LCD you choose.  I use Viewsonic LCD monitors and some other brand LCD TV which work find with 50Hz modes.

There was an old core waaaaaaaaaay back that promoted 50Hz to 60Hz, but it was abandoned for some reason.
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2013, 06:17:28 PM »
Oh... just looked at the specs for my monitor and it says v-sync is 56-75Hz

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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 06:18:53 PM »
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I wouldn't mind a nice classic wb hdf suitable for the minimig...


That can be easily arranged, but you'll have to wait 4 weeks until I can get home.  ;)
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 06:20:51 PM »
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What I'm trying to find out is if the Minimig is doing the same kind of magic as an Indy flicker fixer scandoubler, for example, does.


No, it doesn't.
 

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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2013, 06:22:54 PM »
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I would hope so. I used a Indi ECS with the monitor I intend to use for the minimig and had no issues showing either 50hz or 60hz.

Ok another question. I have seen the v2 Minimig on another site. I take it this is a prototype.


Was it a blue coloured board?  If it is the one I'm thinking of then it is basically the same as the v1.1 except it has headers for the ports (makes them easy to extend internally) and a extra video out option.  It can use the same cores and ARM as the v1.1.

I think it had a very limited production run and finding one in the wild would be like tracking down a Yeti.
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2013, 06:24:59 PM »
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Oh... just looked at the specs for my monitor and it says v-sync is 56-75Hz


Sometimes those monitor specs are not 100% and you can get lucky.

If I was buying a new monitor though I'd look for 50Hz.
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2013, 06:25:46 PM »
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Was it a blue coloured board?  If it is the one I'm thinking of then it is basically the same as the v1.1 except it has headers for the ports (makes them easy to extend internally) and a extra video out option.  It can use the same cores and ARM as the v1.1.

I think it had a very limited production run and finding one in the wild would be like tracking down a Yeti.

I am thinking I won't be able to own one anyway as my monitor probably wont take it :rant: although it played fine with the indi ecs. I don't get it :rant:

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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2013, 06:29:32 PM »
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I am thinking I won't be able to own one anyway as my monitor probably wont take it :rant: although it played fine with the indi ecs. I don't get it :rant:


The Indivision ECS (and AGA) promotes 50Hz to 60Hz as part of the design.  That's why they're such good flicker fixers to get as you can use them on just about any LCD.  Older Amiga flicker fixers have always had this problem (at least with cheapo USA monitors that forget that there are other standards out there).  ;)

What brand/model monitor do you have?
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Re: MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device
« Reply #44 from previous page: February 18, 2013, 06:29:47 PM »
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No, it doesn't.


Oh, that's too bad.
Still, I have a 50Hz capable PAL TV, so one more trick up my sleeve :D
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