MiniMig the no bull thoughts on this device

[Lord Aga]

No, it doesn't.

Oh, that's too bad.
Still, I have a 50Hz capable PAL TV, so one more trick up my sleeve

[Darrin]

A quick search on Tiger Direct popped up these 50Hz models:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6515376&CatId=4420
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7199459&CatId=4420
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6052506&CatId=2775
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7199458&CatId=2775
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3184326&CatId=4420
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7455019&CatId=5469

[CritAnime]

The Indivision ECS (and AGA) promotes 50Hz to 60Hz as part of the design.  That's why they're such good flicker fixers to get as you can use them on just about any LCD.  Older Amiga flicker fixers have always had this problem (at least with cheapo USA monitors that forget that there are other standards out there).  

What brand/model monitor do you have?

LG Flatron W2043SE.

[Darrin]

LG Flatron W2043SE.

Yeah, it looks bad.  I found the manual:
http://www.manualowl.com/m/LG/W2043SE-PF/Manual/318228s

[kedawa]

Why isn't there an option to run PAL at 60Hz?
I really don't care if it speeds things up by a 20%, I just want to use a standard 60Hz monitor.

[Darrin]

Why isn't there an option to run PAL at 60Hz?
I really don't care if it speeds things up by a 20%, I just want to use a standard 60Hz monitor.

It is part of the authentic "Amiga Experience".  Half the fun of being an Amiga owner is knowing that trying to connect an off-the-shelf monitor is a pain in the ass.  

[CritAnime]

Well suppose I am out of the race then bummer.

[broken]

Looks like Viewsonic has some of the most easily accessible monitors in the US that are 50hz friendly.

However if you play a pal game on them is the scrolling smooth? I have seen some tvs that internally upscale 50 to 60 resulting in jerky scrolling.

[Darrin]

Looks like Viewsonic has some of the most easily accessible monitors in the US that are 50hz friendly.

However if you play a pal game on them is the scrolling smooth? I have seen some tvs that internally upscale 50 to 60 resulting in jerky scrolling.

I'm probably the worst person to ask about that sort of thing.  I watch old 4:3 ratio TV programs stretched on my widescreen and they look OK to me.  

[ChaosLord]

My ViewSonic monitor is a normal monitor.  This means it is not a RIPOFF.  This means it accepts PAL input signals.  And no it does not upscale it to 60 hz.  That would be horrible.  If some other model does that then yuck!  Don't buy it! (unless there is an option to turn that off).

Everything looks normal on my ViewSonic.  It actually looks better than my C= 1950 Multisync and my C= 1960 Multisync.

My ViewSonic displays PAL.  My ViewSonic displays NTSC.  My ViewSonic displays PC signals.  I have everything connected to this one monitor with a KVM switch.

[Darrin]

My ViewSonic monitor is a normal monitor.  This means it is not a RIPOFF.  This means it accepts PAL input signals.  And no it does not upscale it to 60 hz.  That would be horrible.  If some other model does that then yuck!  Don't buy it! (unless there is an option to turn that off).

Everything looks normal on my ViewSonic.  It actually looks better than my C= 1950 Multisync and my C= 1960 Multisync.

My ViewSonic displays PAL.  My ViewSonic displays NTSC.  My ViewSonic displays PC signals.  I have everything connected to this one monitor with a KVM switch.

Be aware though, some Viewsonics (mostly the dirt cheap ones) do state a minimum of 56Hz so do check first before you buy.

I bought a couple of 1920x1080 widescreen models because I usually connect a PC to the DVI connector and a Minimig to the VGA input.  Saves deskspace.

Oh, and on my A4000 I use one with the RTG Radeon attached to the DVI and the Indivision AGA attached to the VGA.  Switching between modes is a case of pressing the button on the front, or it switches back to native automatically if you exit all of the RTG screens.

[Lord Aga]

Heeey monitor buddies I have a Viewsonic too It's VX2235wm. But still haven't tested the 50Hz feature. I'm not even sure what is the output from my Indy ECS :confused:
I am quite angry with Viewsonic for not making new larger (24, 26, 27) screens with 1920x1200 resolution. They seem focused on 16:9 ratio.

[CritAnime]

Awww I feel out of the club with my crappy LG...... This sucks I can't afford a new monitor and the Minimig. Even my LG 50 inch lcd won't support it on VGA. If it was any other input then sure but the VGA is 56Hz - 75Hz.
 
Wait... isn't there a vga cable for the minimig that converst it to scart? If so what kind of quality should I get out of it. would it be cleaner than say a classic miggy.

[bbond007]

Awww I feel out of the club with my crappy LG...... This sucks I can't afford a new monitor and the Minimig. Even my LG 50 inch lcd won't support it on VGA. If it was any other input then sure but the VGA is 56Hz - 75Hz.
 
Wait... isn't there a vga cable for the minimig that converst it to scart? If so what kind of quality should I get out of it. would it be cleaner than say a classic miggy.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=919

you can also set the jumper for 15HZ video and you should be good to go.

i have not seen the quality, but I'd imagine it will look just like RGB.

Also don't forget the LG TV will run NTSC stuff.... just the PAL stuff won't work...

good luck...

[Darrin]

SCART saves the day

[CritAnime]

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=919
 
you can also set the jumper for 15HZ video and you should be good to go.
 
i have not seen the quality, but I'd imagine it will look just like RGB.
 
Also don't forget the LG TV will run NTSC stuff.... just the PAL stuff won't work...
 
good luck...

My LG tv will do 50Hz and 60Hz if it's running a TV signal. I know because I have a ntsc SNES I use on it. But for some reason the VGA port will only do 56Hz to 75Hz.