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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #119 from previous page: December 14, 2012, 06:13:02 PM »
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Silly question, but why do people even care?

If it has neither an FPU nor MMU, is it even a valid option?


Loads of Amigas do not have FPU or MMU.  Are they valid options?
Is A500 invalid?  Is A1200 invalid?  What all the zilions of 030 accelerators that have no FPU?

I need an MMU because I am a developer but lots of ppl specifically do not want an MMU.  The 060 FPU is awesome but I could live without it.  But I really need my MMU. :knuddel:
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #120 on: December 14, 2012, 06:32:18 PM »
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Loads of Amigas do not have FPU or MMU.  Are they valid options?
Is A500 invalid?  Is A1200 invalid?  What all the zilions of 030 accelerators that have no FPU?

I need an MMU because I am a developer but lots of ppl specifically do not want an MMU.  The 060 FPU is awesome but I could live without it.  But I really need my MMU. :knuddel:


True.

I think I'd very much miss the feel of completeness though.
Buying a 060 sans MMU/FPU definitely isn't an option for me.

Well. Perhaps one without the FPU, since it isn't even that good compared to the one on an Intel Pentium, but the MMU is kind of mandatory.

BTW: What do you program your games in? I'm very much interested in trying out GameSmith ASM. Is there anything similar to this but with 060 support?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #121 on: December 14, 2012, 07:02:32 PM »
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Got word from Cosmos.

Unfortunately, he is unable to assist me (or anyone else, for that matter) in the procedure.
A bunch of Frenchmen reported him for what they assumed would be moonlighting, so he quit.

I seriously hate Europe.

What does this mean?
 

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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2012, 07:02:36 PM »
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BTW: What do you program your games in?

JC + asm
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2012, 07:29:04 PM »
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What does this mean?

Moonlighting? It's the practice of working without paying any taxes to the government.

It's what he told me. Three Frenchmen had him reported for that.


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I stopped Amiga repair : three french amigamem here want me big troubles (was a black job)

Sorry,


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I think he's German, as "Blackjob" isn't really an English term but Germans use it all the time ("Schwarzarbeit" = Moonlighting)

@ChaosLord

Is that an abbreviation of some sorts? Can't find anything to the extent of Amiga JC or JC ASM or even Amiga JC Library.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2012, 07:49:55 PM »
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Moonlighting? It's the practice of working without paying any taxes to the government.

It's what he told me. Three Frenchmen had him reported for that.




I think he's German, as "Blackjob" isn't really an English term but Germans use it all the time ("Schwarzarbeit" = Moonlighting)

@ChaosLord

Is that an abbreviation of some sorts? Can't find anything to the extent of Amiga JC or JC ASM or even Amiga JC Library.

Ah.  Well, not many governments like you doing work without paying your protection money.  What kind of lamer reports someone for it?
 

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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #125 on: December 14, 2012, 08:55:57 PM »
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Ah.  Well, not many governments like you doing work without paying your protection money.  What kind of lamer reports someone for it?


Well. Some people just have really screwed moral standards.

When I was grocery shopping today, I saw a foreign lady stealing stuff in the public. They all just looked into the other direction and when I reported her to the cashier, that fellow behind me had the indecency of calling me out on it*

I really don't want to have to spill it out, but the term by which those kind of people** go starts with an "l" and ends in "efty" ;)

*Quote: "Way to go! Thanks to you, that lady may have to go to bed hungry"

**According to my own personal observations, those really are the same people who would willingly report others for moonlighting and the likes. Doesn't really make sense, but neither do they.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #126 on: December 14, 2012, 10:41:01 PM »
Pics are in.




(Is it just me, or does the upper right half look like something went up in smoke before?)





To buy or not to buy?


EDIT: Just realized this is a Phase5, so it will only accept single-sided SIMMs.
Is there any way to change this behaviour (some sort of mod)?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2012, 11:16:22 PM »
depends on the price, but there are guides on how to upgrade with a 060
 

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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2012, 11:24:04 PM »
It's 265 + shipping.

Kinda bugs me that it only accepts 64MB though. 192MB with the optional SCSI board (which, as everything, will probably be hard to find. Right?)

Makes me wonder though. Is the 64MB a physical limitation (i. e. single-sided 128MB sticks were less common back then, so Phase5 labelled it as max.64MB) or a logical (i. e. even I could fit in a 128MB module, it will only show up as 64MB or not at all)?

I'm not sure it would make sense to buy it if won't be able to upgrade it to 128MB. Could as well buy an Apollo then.


EDIT: Just had a more thorough look at the photo and it appears he installed a double sided SIMM.
Is this guy screwing with me?
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #129 on: December 14, 2012, 11:40:20 PM »
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(Is it just me, or does the upper right half look like something went up in smoke before?)

To buy or not to buy?


EDIT: Just realized this is a Phase5, so it will only accept single-sided SIMMs.
Is there any way to change this behaviour (some sort of mod)?


Its fine. The fan contacts were obviously soldered by the owner (not a great job, but OK).
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #130 on: December 14, 2012, 11:42:09 PM »
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Thanks.

I've been offered a 060 socket now.

10 euros (9 if I take two) + 4 euros shipping.

Does that sound fair?

Furthermore, I've already sourced a 060 CPU. Unfortunately, it's the old 50 MHz variant that doesn't clock as high as the later revisions or the LC/EC deriatives.

I have one that I bought foe $10.
Ten euro is a little high but not bad.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #131 on: December 14, 2012, 11:48:38 PM »
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@ the 68060FE133 haters

Various ppl have bought them.  They used them.  Nobody has ever reported them as being fake or defective.  So why the hate?

So, do you still thinks these are real or relabeled MC68EC060RC75s (which is still my opinion, but it doesn't bother as they still look attractive).

Currently trying to get prices on EC75, LC75, and FE133.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #132 on: December 15, 2012, 12:07:16 AM »
@Iggy

I'm actually more concerned with that diode thingy a fair bit more to the right

See here:




PS: While I definitely like the idea of having hardware that is customizable to some extent, I still have large issues dealing with all the information.

Saw an older thread on EAB in which a few people said Phase5 Blizzard 1260s would recognize 128MB SIMMs, if one can find one that is slim enough. Is that true?

If I could fit in larger RAM by either finding really slim SIMMs or replacing the socket with a flat one, I would be ok with that.

Lastly, are there any Amiga hardware geeks in southern Germany or Switzerland (near Zurich)? If I end up buying this card, I'll need help modifying and installing it. I burned my hands half a dozen of times this year, which should tell you plenty enough of my lackluster soldering skills.

If someone wants to spend a short vacation here (in case there are no local Amiga geeks), I'd also be more than willing to provide for food, accommodation and leisure.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #133 on: December 15, 2012, 12:11:06 AM »
Its a capacitor and it looks like it might have leaked.
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Re: Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?
« Reply #134 on: December 15, 2012, 12:23:39 AM »
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Its a capacitor and it looks like it might have leaked.


Urgh.

So no buy then?
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