Will there be an ACA1240 or ACA1260?

[ChaosLord]

@ the 68060FE133 haters

Various ppl have bought them.  They used them.  Nobody has ever reported them as being fake or defective.  So why the hate?

[Blinx123]

The guy still hasn't replied back with the photos I asked for.
By the time he has, I'll let you all know.

BTW: This guy seems to have a 1260 with 040 CPU, as well.

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36906

Is it true that it will need a new socket, btw? The seller told me I'd need a 060 specific socket (but never even mentioned voltage regulators)?

[ChaosLord]

040s were 5v and 060 was 3.3v.  They each have a different socket.

[Blinx123]

040s were 5v and 060 was 3.3v.  They each have a different socket.

Thanks.

I've been offered a 060 socket now.

10 euros (9 if I take two) + 4 euros shipping.

Does that sound fair?

Furthermore, I've already sourced a 060 CPU. Unfortunately, it's the old 50 MHz variant that doesn't clock as high as the later revisions or the LC/EC deriatives.

[Lord Aga]

A bunch of Frenchmen reported him for what they assumed would be moonlighting, so he quit.

WTF ?!? What does this mean ?
How is helping people who ask for help with electronics illegal ?

[Blinx123]

WTF ?!? What does this mean ?
How is helping people who ask for help with electronics illegal ?

Some people just don't take kindly to people accepting donations for their work (ironically, the same people seldom oppose to illegal immigration, even though that's a far bigger issue).

It very much sucks.

[spirantho]

@ the 68060FE133 haters

Various ppl have bought them.  They used them.  Nobody has ever reported them as being fake or defective.  So why the hate?

Because according to the manufacturers themselves they don't exist. Therefore what are they and who are they by?

They may be genuine enough to work well, that's true - but if it were your reputation on the line that you'd build up over several years, would you take the risk?

[Lord Aga]

Some people just don't take kindly to people accepting donations for their work (ironically, the same people seldom oppose to illegal immigration, even though that's a far bigger issue).

It very much sucks.

But, but, butbutbut...
I don't know what to say. I'm stumped really.
I'd like to meet those guys who reported him. In a dark alley...

[Blinx123]

But, but, butbutbut...
I don't know what to say. I'm stumped really.
I'd like to meet those guys who reported him. In a dark alley...

I would gladly join you.
What a bunch of morons.

Probably don't even know that moonlighters are the backbone of the European economy.

[donpalmera]

@ the 68060FE133 haters

Various ppl have bought them.  They used them.  Nobody has ever reported them as being fake or defective.  So why the hate?

I have yet to find one report of them working.. links please. The only thing I could find that went into any detail was the thread on MorphOS zone or whatever it was called.. and no one there could provide/find an example of one of these things working either. You're also assuming that all of these chips that are floating around the Chinese brokers are the same thing.

If everything is so crystal clear you'll have some evidence to back up what you're saying.. If you are really sure about this I will order a tray of them. If they turn out to be relabelled parts or just outright fakes you'll give me my costs back for the parts and making up a test jig right? :roflmao:

[ChaosLord]

Because according to the manufacturers themselves they don't exist.

The manufacturer did not say that.

Freescale (who may or may not be the manufacturer) said FE133 was not a Freescale part number.

This means nothing.

If I walk up to freescale and hand them a million bucks to make a TCAGA060133 cpu.  Then I take all the chips and they are my part number not freescale's part number.

That happens all the time in manufacturing.

Therefore what are they and who are they by?

They may be genuine enough to work well, that's true - but if it were your reputation on the line that you'd build up over several years, would you take the risk?

You obviously do not want an 060 accelerator and that is ok with me.  You should stay with 030

[psxphill]

BTW: This guy seems to have a 1260 with 040 CPU, as well.
 
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36906

he goes on to refer to it as a 1240 "They simply do not with the Blizzard 1240 (68040@40)... same configuration but... nothing! "
 
He also calls it a 1240 in his signature:
 
"A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
A4000T +K3.1 +A3640 + "
 
The 68060 has an extra row of pins, so the socket will need to be changed (although online it suggests you can bodge I and just add the extra pins). You need a voltage regulator and there is a suggestion that some resistors or diodes need moving/changing.
 
Someone was doing the mods professionally a while back, I wouldn't even begin to think about doing that myself.

[AJCopland]

If everything is so crystal clear you'll have some evidence to back up what you're saying.. If you are really sure about this I will order a tray of them. If they turn out to be relabelled parts or just outright fakes you'll give me my costs back for the parts and making up a test jig right? :roflmao:

The Natami guys tested them, they're exactly what they seem to be, someone just needs to make a board to test them with a regular Amiga. They seem to be a Chinese knockoff, i.e. a replica.

Wherever they come from though they passed all of the instruction tests. Sadly a lot of that stuff is discussed on the "Team" side of the Natami forum and I'm no longer involved over there.

So yes what it requires is someone actually building up a rig to try them. Sorry, no shorter answer to that.

[ChaosLord]

I have yet to find one report of them working.. links please.

If they didn't work then Thomas would have told me.  It would be a really big deal.  That is my view.

The way I remember it is that Thomas plugged one into his 060 card and it worked and it did not have MMU or FPU.  

You could try datamining the Natami forum.

The only thing I could find that went into any detail was the thread on MorphOS zone or whatever it was called.. and no one there could provide/find an example of one of these things working either. You're also assuming that all of these chips that are floating around the Chinese brokers are the same thing.

Supposedly some Atari guys are using them.  You could search Atari forums if u want.

Of if they are really $20.00 why not just buy one and see what happens?

[Blinx123]

Silly question, but why do people even care?

If it has neither an FPU nor MMU, is it even a valid option?

[ChaosLord]

Silly question, but why do people even care?

If it has neither an FPU nor MMU, is it even a valid option?

Loads of Amigas do not have FPU or MMU.  Are they valid options?
Is A500 invalid?  Is A1200 invalid?  What all the zilions of 030 accelerators that have no FPU?

I need an MMU because I am a developer but lots of ppl specifically do not want an MMU.  The 060 FPU is awesome but I could live without it.  But I really need my MMU. :knuddel: