Most powerful PPC that can be put in an A1200?

[Jose]

Actually it's kinda weird we're still talking about this after all these years isn't it ? Cool though...

[Jose]

The advantage of the G3 would of course be the extra cache, given that the same memory access limitations apply.

[Jose]

Found one old mention of it in this site in 2008, but I remember an older one. Have no idea about the compatibility between the processors though, which is what matters.
Check it here:http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36219&page=2

[delshay]

Found one old mention of it in this site in 2008, but I remember an older one. Have no idea about the compatibility between the processors though, which is what matters.
Check it here:http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=36219&page=2

Arr that old thread. There are a few mistakes in that thread one by me,its a typo error. Somethings I have said in that thread even at the time i had no idea it would work at that time has come true.

Another processor was tested a few months later and I can confirm at that time OS4.0 almost booted into workbench. Just to make it clear it was not a 603e Processor. I think something in the flashrom may need to be change. If it is something in flashrom,it must be a very small line that need to changed.

The performance of blizzard card is there,but as I said in a few threads you need very high speed memory access. This plays a very important role as I notice it did not do a lot to graphics performance even with big changes in processor speed if memory access is not fast enough.

How the tide is turning as the PCI bus has now moved and is clocked with the PPC processor.

[Iggy]

I remember many years ago some mentions that some version of the G3 would be feasible as a replacement in Blizzard cards, but given the value of the Blizzards I guess it's not worth the risk and apparently noone has seriously tried.
I've lost interest in the Classic PPC stuff after getting a Pegasos G3, an A1200 for old games and programs is great but for more recent apps / productivity it's a waste.

I feel for you there.
G4 Apples and an A2000 satisfy most of my needs.
You guys do realize we're talking about working hard to get G3 performance.
Man, we DO discuss some odd ideas.

[delshay]

It has never being about the processor when I started this project,it has always being about bus speed. The basic standard has been set as many of you may or may not have being aware for modified cards only.

I have only being working on the the PCI slot for the past 6 months or so and is was working upto 41.5Mhz

I said the the tide is turning and the PCI slot is threatening AGP speed but its the test Blizzard/Bvision card thats able to boot into OS4.1 only. Its showing benchmarks I have never seen before. I can confirm whatever benchmark classic users are getting at 800x600 or 640x480 its showing benchmarks that exceeds both screemode with 1024x768 32bit. Theres a lot of work needed to retain this speed so I see what I can do.

NOTE: quality of sgram seems to be playing a important role in this but not certain at this stage. Also PCI slot at AGP speed works only on test card,if all goes well,will be transferred to standard card with screenshot being updated to reflect changes.

[smerf]

rip the guts out, install a Keyrah and and Mac Mini PPC logic board.  Install MOS.

@Persia,

Why would anyone want to rip the guts out of an A1200 for an old obsolete chip like a ppc, you all sure like to waste a lot of money. PPC means old and obsolete, just like most of the original Amiga users on Amiga.org.

I too am an old codger, heck I was old when the original Amiga 1000 came out, but back then I was into NEW TECHNOLOGY and the Amiga fit the bill at that time, now I am into the same bracket NEW TECHNOLOGY not going back in time and downgrading myself to old obsolete PPC tech just seems silly and a waste of time, and right now time is precious to me, at my age don't you know.

If I was going to destroy an Amiga 1200 I would put a micro ATX board in it, and boot it up with Cloanto's Amiga Forever 2012, runs a heck of a lot faster then a PPC chip, and works quite well on my 8 core 3.4 ghz AMD chip, and my 6 core AMD chip. Maybe some of you old obsolete codgers should give the PPC a rest and try NEW TECH, and then just sit back and enjoy.

Right now I am trying to figure out how to make Cloanto's Amiga Forever boot up on a hard drive of my old obsolete 3.2 ghz dual core intel chip Gateway. I use this for playing around and ironing out bugs before I invest in another NEW TECH AMD chip and board. Got to know if I can make it work or not. I heard it can be done, but I am sort of stupid, I can get the CD to boot up Amiga Forever, but I want to turn it on and get KX light to boot up on my hard drive so I can boot right into Amiga Forever. I am running into trouble with getting the boot code on the hard drive, well back to work, just wanted to see what you loonies are up to. By the way MorphOS works great on my MAAAAAC mini. Gosh that is hard to say and even harder to use.

smerf

[Thorham]

@smerf:

If you're so much into new things, then why don't you give Amiga a rest and move on?

[Pentad]

@smerf:


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I didn't realize Doomy was logging in as smerf...


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[smerf]

@smerf:

If you're so much into new things, then why don't you give Amiga a rest and move on?

Hi,

I already have, if you have noticed I haven't been around that much anymore, I have given up on the new Amiga, and have come down to the conclusion that no new Amiga will be if made supported by anyone.

I mean look at Linux, it has been around for years, and is a very good operating system, with lots of support from programmers around the world, but still the game developers ignore it.

Microsoft has the computer industry sort of tied up, whether you like it or not they have the power and the money to see that the industry works for them.

Been thinking about selling my equipment, may be coming soon.

My words Amiga Forever and I have it, but still support the old Amiga. It is sort of taking a Model A, and hot rodding it.

By the way if you get a chance look at the block diagram of how the old Amiga works, and then look at the block diagram of a new PC, pretty much the same except the new PC has modern equipment.

smerf

[smerf]

@smerf:


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I didn't realize Doomy was logging in as smerf...


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Have you all noticed that most of the old timers who have been with the Amiga are moving on to other boards?

You want to know the reason?

Read your retro board and see what you all are talking about.

Ohhh the minimig is so great I can play my 20 year old games on it.  SORRY I DON'T WANT TO PLAY 20 YEAR OLD GAMES when Farcry 3, Crysis 3, Fallout are so much better both graphically and sound wise. The game play is awesome, and the machine if you know anything about computers can be put together for $700 for a rip roaring computer that will blow your socks off.
Now for your $183.71 you can buy a minimig board and play old games on it, after you invest about another $100 into external parts to make it run, then another $40 for a sandisk for storage, then another $100 for a case to put it all in. So now you have close to $500 for a new Amiga computer, that plays old Amiga games, that has no support from programming companies, but has some support from hobby computer programmers.

Am I loonie or do I see something wrong with this picture.

Now lets see when Commodore first made the C64, and the Amiga, the first thing they did was bring out a magazine telling you about it and giving you little programs that you could type in until they got their programming section going to give you more professional programs.

Does AROS, MorphOS, minimig or your new powerful Amiga X1000 have this support?

If you said NO and bought one, well I am sorry for you.

Now if we could all support something that is out there and works, like Amiga Forever, and we all started programming for it, but used and encouraged Amiga Forever to program newer features into it, then we would have a system that runs on new hardware, but still supports the old hardware, but this will make to much sense, and therefore not acceptable by the people here on Amiga.org web site, because you would all rather fight on which archaic system would be a better substitute for the Amiga, forgetting that the Amiga was about stepping ahead with new hardware.
Jay once said that he wish he would have know about how powerful the 286 was when he was designing the original Amiga, but it wasn't out until about 2 years after, why because Jay was into modern advances.
So, yes I will move on, and advance forward while you all figure out what archaic piece of crap you all want to use and spend the big bucks for.

bye
smerf

[psxphill]

Now for your $183.71 you can buy a minimig board and play old games on it, after you invest about another $100 into external parts to make it run, then another $40 for a sandisk for storage, then another $100 for a case to put it all in. So now you have close to $500 for a new Amiga computer, that plays old Amiga games, that has no support from programming companies, but has some support from hobby computer programmers.
 
Am I loonie or do I see something wrong with this picture.

Both? If you're only just realising that the Amiga is never going to be as popular as it was in the late 80's/early 90's then maybe you are a bit loony.
 
There are probably others that haven't realised this yet, but most retro enthusiasts are well aware of how ridiculous their hobby is & we just don't care.

[delshay]

This thread is about "the most powerful PPC card" that works with a A1200. Blizzard cards do have 83Mhz logic and has shown to work at 83.3Mhz.

All overclocking will be removed but performance will continue to rise as per this card http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3692 which is the basic standard for a modified card.

[Fats]

There are probably others that haven't realised this yet, but most retro enthusiasts are well aware of how ridiculous their hobby is & we just don't care.

+1
Proud to be geek!

[delshay]

Their are a few users that are interested in how fast a A1200 can go,this is how this thread was started. If users were not interested or don't care then why are their so many users posting here. There are so many threads I'm not interested in but I don't go around saying I don't care,its not nice.

This thread will apply mostly to classic users that are interested. If you are not interested then its probably best to post in other threads thats in your interest,as to not push away new users to amiga OS.

Let's not let new users see such comments as we do want to draw in new users to amiga. Thx in advance.

[delshay]

Blizzard PPC PCI slot @AGP speed screenshot

 http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=3760