Radeon installation problems

[560SL]

Been trying to install my recently purchased Radeon 9250 card into the A4000T today, but without success. Installation procedure is kindof not-so-intuitive in my opinion, feels more like bringing order into a hippie- happening to get things working.

Anyway, followed the procedures as far up to the point where I am supposed to "click onto" the Radeon icon in Devs/Monitors. What happens then is I get a Software Failure, Program failed on Radeon.

The following has been installed:
- Picasso96 2.1b
- MM_CD_UP2.1

CVision3D in Devs/Monitors has been renamed to Radeon and tooltype set to Radeon. Radeon.card is in Libs:Picasso96. So it should kindof work now.....

I get the following log from SnoopDos before the program failure:
 Count Process Name       Action     Target Name                 Options Res.
 ----- ------------       ------     -----------                 ------- ----
 1     WBL                ChangeDir  SystemA4k:P96Backup/Devs/Mo            
 2     WBL                Load       Radeon                              OK  
 3     WBL                ChangeDir  SYS:                                    
 4     Radeon             ChangeDir  SystemA4k:P96Backup/Devs/Mo            
 5     ramlib             Load       LIBS:picasso96/rtg.library          OK  
 6     Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/AmigaVideo    Read    OK  
 7     Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/Debug         Read    OK  
 8     Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/BlackSwitchin Read    OK  
 9     Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/DirectColorMa Read    OK  
 10    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/DoNotSetMMU   Read    OK  
 11    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/ShowModes     Read    OK  
 12    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/PlanarOnlyDIP Read    OK  
 13    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/DisableAmigaB Read    OK  
 14    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/PlanesToFast  Read    OK  
 15    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/Experimental  Read    OK  
 16    Picasso96          Open       ENV:Picasso96/EnableBootVGA Read    OK  
 17    ramlib             Load       LIBS:Picasso96/fastlayers.l         OK  
 18    Radeon             Open       Radeon.info                 Read    OK  
 19    Radeon             ToolType   QUIET                               Fail
 20    Radeon             ToolType   BOARDTYPE                           OK  
 21    Radeon             ToolType   SETTINGSFILE                        OK  
 22    Radeon             ToolType   MEMORYCLOCK                         Fail
 23    Radeon             ToolType   SOFTSPRITE                          Fail
 24    Radeon             ToolType   BIGSPRITE                           Fail
 25    Radeon             ToolType   BORDERBLANK                         Fail
 26    Radeon             ToolType   DISPLAYCHAIN                        Fail
 27    Radeon             ToolType   IGNOREMASK                          OK  
 28    Radeon             ToolType   NOPLANAR2CHUNKYBLITS                Fail
 29    Radeon             ToolType   NOBLITTER                           Fail
 30    Radeon             ToolType   SYSTEM2SCREENBLITS                  Fail
 31    Radeon             ToolType   QUIET                               Fail
 32    Radeon             ToolType   OVERCLOCK                           Fail
 33    Radeon             ToolType   GRANTDIRECTACCESS                   Fail
 34    Radeon             ToolType   FAKENATIVEMODES                     Fail
 35    Radeon             Load       LIBS:picasso96/Radeon.card          OK  
 36    Radeon             Open       ENV:Mediator/RadeonMem      Read    Fail
 37    Radeon             Open       ENV:Mediator/RadeonInt      Read    Fail
 38    ramlib             Load       LIBS:pci.library                    OK  
 39    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/MMU         Read    OK  
 40    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/NoCache     Read    Fail
 41    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/Warp3D      Read    OK  
 42    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/Emulation   Read    Fail
 43    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/PatchInt    Read    Fail
 44    ramlib             Open       ENVARC:Mediator/Buster      Read    Fail
 45    ramlib             Open       S:Vendors.txt               Read    OK
 
 pciinfo reports the following:
 Pci Device 1:
   VendorID: $1002
   VendorName: ATI Technologies Inc. / Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
   DeviceID: $5960
   DeviceName: RV280 Radeon 9200 Pro
   ClassCode: $30000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 4
   SubsystemVendorID: $1092
   SubsystemID: $160
   MemSpace0: $50000000 - $5fffffff
   IOSpace1: $40c06000 - $40c060ff

Finally, the following line is in S:Vendors.txt:
5960   RV280 Radeon 9200 Pro

So I cant fully figure out what is happening when the Radeon icon is clicked, but it seems things start to go astray when the Vendors.txt has been read (I see it because a huge amount of memory is consumed), and this is the last log- entry that SnoopDos reports. One thing that worries me a bit is the possibility that there are debris left from the Voodoo installation, basically I just re- installed MM_CD_UP2.1 and followed the instructions in the RadeonGuide text file. Would be much nicer to install on a fresh system, but Id hate to do a complete system re- installation.

So if anyone have any idea what the problem could be? Like weird ENV/ARC settings or something like that? Any hints are welcome

[danbeaver]

You are correct, it is not intuitive. The install went wrong or you didn't reboot after each step. Yes, it is fine to rerun the install multiple times; it just copies files to the Libs directory and sets up some ENV/ENVARC settings. All are easy to find and delete. Run the install again and after each step try a fresh reboot.

This should work unless you have an incompatible 9250 card (not likely if it came from Elbox or Amigakit).  You can ask Elbox for help if you registered the Mediator, but don't expect a reply.

[560SL]

You can ask Elbox for help if you registered the Mediator, but don't expect a reply.

Thats all part of the not-so-intuitive installation process Alright, strongly considering a complete system re- installation.

[Bamiga2002]

Did you use MedConfig to configure Med+Radeon ?

You could also try going here http://www.pcidatabase.com/reports.php?type=tab-delimeted and save the list as "S:Vendors.txt"

EDIT: corrected URL

[slaapliedje]

The information for my Devs/Monitors/Radeon file is;

Code: [Select]

(BorderBlank=System)
(MemoryClock=0)
BigSprite=NO
BoardType=Radeon
DisplayChain=Yes
FakeNativeModes=NO
FontsFix=NO
GrantDirectAccess=NO
IgnoreMask=Yes
NoBlitter=NO
NoPlanar2ChunkyBlits=NO
OverClock=NO
SettginsFile=SYS:Devs/Picasso96Settings
SoftSprite=NO
System2ScreenBlits=NO

Not sure why it amuses me that the NOs are all capitalized and the Yes, only has the Y as upper case...

Anyhow, that's that, my question would be, anyone know what all those options do and if one of those could be why AmiDOCK makes my system lock up?  It seems that it's running pretty much fine without AmiDOCK loaded...

slaapliedje

[560SL]

Just made a new system installation this evening, from scratch 3.1->3.9+BB1+BB2. Then installing P96 2.1b and MM_CD_V2.1 and followed the RadeonGuide. Clicking on Devs/Monitors/Radeon now works without System Failure, but I cant get any board to attach to in P96 Prefs program.

I had exactly the same problem when installing the Voodoo card (attach to board/no board) but somehow I got it working then. I just cant remember how...

[slaapliedje]

Check Libs/Picasso96 to see if there is a Radeon.card file in there.  I think that's where I had that issue as well.

slaapliedje

[Bamiga2002]

You could also try the beta 10 pci.library -> http://www.elbox.com/download/beta/pci.library

[560SL]

Thanks, will try the beta and see if this helps.

Would really help to understand what the P96Settings program is doing to find boards to attach to. Gonna see if Snoopdos can reveal anything.

[Bamiga2002]

What are your Picasso96 env-variables? Do you have MMU=Yes?
I haven't ever tried my Radeon separately, only together with a Voodoo3 and it required MMU=Yes. But this was on an A1200. Since then I've removed the Radeon because it's of no use since doesn't support Warp3D.

[Bamiga2002]

There's also a tad newer Picasso96-package available, get it here

[560SL]

Did some further testing this evening with no success. Reinstalled P96_2.1c (thanks for the info). Even reinstalled Mediator system files from CD + the 2.0 and 2.1 updates.

I noticed that I had previously missed to set BOARDTYPE to Radeon in the monitor file, but when set, I get the System Failure. Last thing Snoopdos says is that Radeon (monitor file) is doing OpenLib on Libs:Picasso96/Radeon.card. I did not try to use v10 of pci.library (yet).

In ENVARC:Picasso96 I have a variabe DoNotUseMMU which is set to No. ENVARC:Mediator has a variable called MMU, this is also set to No.

All thing is pointing to to install my Voodoo 5 5500 back again, as said, there are drivers to support Warp3D.

[Vanilla]

Anyway, followed the procedures as far up to the  point where I am supposed to "click onto" the Radeon icon in  Devs/Monitors. What happens then is I get a Software Failure, Program  failed on Radeon

I can't believe they still make it so hard to install a driver. I  thought with a fresh install it would be clean and take care of all the  business. :-o

I first saw the installer a while back, and it all looked normal using a  proper installer script, until you it wanted you to perform some manual  manipulation and hack another monitor driver for its purpose!

I thought by now they would have cleaned all this up. But then again  they also released updated USB drivers they expected you to copy  manually into place that didn't work by themselves and needed  configuration that happened to not be mentioned in the non existing  readme file.

Is there any Amiga hardware anymore that can be installed by the average  user? Or do you have to be a total Amiga tech head to install anything  simple these days?

Anyway, what slot is the card in? IIRC it should be in the second slot form bottom?

[Bamiga2002]

... there are drivers to support Warp3D.

Where?! Gimme them now!! (OK AmigaOS 4.1 supports Radeon Warp3D)

Try the beta 10 pci.library if that helps...