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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2012, 10:17:49 AM »
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The Catweasel MkIV(+) has two 9-pin joystick ports in it. Plus UAE supports the Catweasel so you can read Amiga disks from within the emulated environment... but you can't boot from them as it doesn't emulate Paula driving them.


I was reluctant to use Catweasel because you can't boot real Amiga games on the PC but didn't know it had Keyrah style built in joysticks.
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2012, 10:21:28 AM »
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Original keyboards...to be honest I prefer the new ones but it's all down to taste of course. ;)


There are some very Amiga 2000 (the best keyboard IMO) like Cherry and Apple keyboards. A1200/600/500 keyboards were not as good as 1000/2000 keyboards IMO.
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2012, 10:28:19 AM »
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@The daddy.

I liked the existing wedge cases except the fact they are made of cheap plastic. How hard would it be to make a wedge case using the same dimensions only swapping the plastic for aluminium? It shoudn't be too hard to find and use original keyboards should it? Maybe you are trying too hard to re-design the wheel?


A1200/600 case is quite similar to mk2 C64 case and I did some calculations for sheet steel. The vents/slats on top would be a pain but ports and underside vents could be CNC cut before bending/pressing the panels.

A sturdy plastic case in identical white would be my choice though.
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2012, 10:32:30 AM »
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I was reluctant to use Catweasel because you can't boot real Amiga games on the PC but didn't know it had Keyrah style built in joysticks.


True, you can't boot real Amiga games.

But you can WHDload install them from the floppies. You just need a bit of software imagination and gratuitous use of NSDPatch.

If you can get a Catweasel in there, you can install your Amiga floppy originals and play them with real Amiga joysticks (and mice). You'll need a PCI slot though, that's going to be the problem.... but it wouldn't need to be externally accessible. You could just run a lead from the internal joystick ports to 9-pin ports mounted in the case, just like in the real Amigas.
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2012, 10:48:55 AM »
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But to be honest i hate the idea of using AROS.



Why?

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2012, 11:15:58 AM »
i would like to see the amiga fantasy case to be finally build.... it still looks fantastic..



bigger pic..
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_oct02/amiga-fantasyb.jpg

the amiga walker case... is awesome to...
http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=48069
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2012, 11:38:06 AM »
@Digiman
the hardest part is amiga layouted keyboard. you will have hard time to beat cusa here, for the case himself you can use some sort of automated fabrication, say 3d printer. shouldnt be much of an issue.
@a1260
too much dents..
@daddy
sorry but without amiga keyboard layout and some more design characteristics, and especially if done of bent metal it resembles more just any 8-bit computer replica like many built in eastern block.
check for instance this out:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_I
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_II
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_III

besides wedge computers were not only amigas, there were many other such case designs in the early 80s, many better, like -say- atari_st. why do you advertise your design an amiga replica? it should rather be treated as a wedge computer replica in general and meet the wider audience. although from this angle i still find the following cybernet design, (marketed currently by cusa afair) by lengths more elegant and likely more functional than anything you can build at home.

http://www.cybernetman.com/en/all-in-one-pc/Keyboard-pc/ZPC-GX31
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2012, 11:50:47 AM »
I must admit I love Amiga Fantasy case and the MCC case. I have zero interest in buying any X86 hardware unless it's a tablet, I just don't need it. Natami and SAM is all the interest I have. As for AROS, I'll run that when it fully supports my Toshiba NB100. It's not got far to go but I'm in no hurry.
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2012, 11:52:14 AM »
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Right I've had enough. C=USA are clearly just scammers raping the Amiga brand sticking logos on Wintel computers in a case that has sweet FA to do with Amiga case designs so help me do what they should have done!

1. I plan to have A1200 and other cases replicated too (600 1000 or 3000 also, you choose) and a bespoke "Amiga" keyboard later on.

2. I want to fit them with 100% AROS compatible x86 hardware. I want to configure them to have AROS BIOS too.

3. I want to configure them out of the box to run dual boot AROS + Windows XP & Amiga emulator (£20 Amiga Forever OCS & AGA)

4. Nostalgic homage box + poly inserts + spiral bound user manuals

5. 9 pin joystick port interface built into the case (because USB Competition Pro is terrible!)

If you are interested please voice your support in my thread now. If enough people are interested I can start this project rolling with contacts in the industry I have.

I am sorry it is x86 not PPC but I cannot finance OS4 compatible PPC motherboard development. But if you want an x86 system like this please show support. A few members talked about donations to help (100% of your donations would be subtracted from purchase price of course).


How are you going to be supporting AROS?
Support AROS sponsor a developer.

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012, 12:12:51 PM »
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How are you going to be supporting AROS?


By increasing the user base! Why the perception that if you put out a free OS you can expect everyone that uses it to support it in other ways too? (even if it would be nice that they did). I would be more concerned that Digiman could be considered an OEM making a computer with an "Amiga-like OS" myself, that could be an issue.
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2012, 12:18:58 PM »
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I must admit I love Amiga Fantasy case and the MCC case. I have zero interest in buying any X86 hardware unless it's a tablet, I just don't need it. Natami and SAM is all the interest I have. As for AROS, I'll run that when it fully supports my Toshiba NB100. It's not got far to go but I'm in no hurry.


you would be interested in the case if it had different mounting configurations set up for x86 and sam... i think thats the way to go here.
 

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2012, 12:26:35 PM »
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you would be interested in the case if it had different mounting configurations set up for x86 and sam... i think thats the way to go here.


Yes, I think that's the way to go. It is a very nice case.
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2012, 12:55:48 PM »
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@Digiman
the hardest part is amiga layouted keyboard. you will have hard time to beat cusa here, for the case himself you can use some sort of automated fabrication, say 3d printer. shouldnt be much of an issue.
@a1260
too much dents..
@daddy
sorry but without amiga keyboard layout and some more design characteristics, and especially if done of bent metal it resembles more just any 8-bit computer replica like many built in eastern block.
check for instance this out:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_I
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_II
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritum_III

besides wedge computers were not only amigas, there were many other such case designs in the early 80s, many better, like -say- atari_st. why do you advertise your design an amiga replica? it should rather be treated as a wedge computer replica in general and meet the wider audience. although from this angle i still find the following cybernet design, (marketed currently by cusa afair) by lengths more elegant and likely more functional than anything you can build at home.

http://www.cybernetman.com/en/all-in-one-pc/Keyboard-pc/ZPC-GX31



You might want to put your glasses on and read my post again more carefully.
I am not making a replica...surely the words inspired and tribute mean something to you or not?
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2012, 01:21:14 PM »
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By increasing the user base! Why the perception that if you put out a free OS you can expect everyone that uses it to support it in other ways too? (even if it would be nice that they did). I would be more concerned that Digiman could be considered an OEM making a computer with an "Amiga-like OS" myself, that could be an issue.



AROS has enough OEM's that actually support the development of AROS not just milking it.   If we're going to hold one company to this standard we should hold everyone to it.
Support AROS sponsor a developer.

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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2012, 01:38:08 PM »
Natami in that fantasy case would be a killer! :pint:
But there could be difficulties inserting PCI-cards into it...
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Re: Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 27, 2012, 01:50:34 PM »
The main thing I want is a proper Amiga keyboard.

The facility to attache a digital joystick sure wouldn't hurt either.

Please, please do your thing.  There will be more than enough customers to support you.

Even better - an 1200 style wedge that can house an Arcade Replay board ;-)