Let me help fix this C=USA disaster...but you must help me too!

[Haranguer]

The main thing I want is a proper Amiga keyboard.

The facility to attache a digital joystick sure wouldn't hurt either.

Please, please do your thing.  There will be more than enough customers to support you.

Even better - an 1200 style wedge that can house an Arcade Replay board ;-)

[vox]

Right I've had enough. C=USA are clearly just scammers raping the Amiga brand sticking logos on Wintel computers in a case that has sweet FA to do with Amiga case designs so help me do what they should have done!

If it takes Amithlon what is the max config?
What would be recommended for AROS?

AresOne "Amigo" or AmigaOne "Amigo" licenced name?

What would be the estimated overall price if it would be max single core or min dual core CPU with 1Gb and 2GB fast RAM, some suitable gfx card, AND Catweasel and case?

Promised triple boot: Amithlon, AROS and Linux or WinXP SP3 with AF and AmiKit, or AROS, XP with AF+Amikit, Linux with AF+Amikit.

Since strongest single core could be used could it be some cheap x86 chip like VIA?

Surely, some 20$ of machine should go to Amithlon, 20$ to AROS and at least 20$ to Amiga Forever, if that is not too complex and all 3 might prosper without much add on price, but with added value. That can still be creative machine and not too expensive.

Licence with Hyperion might grant e.g. OS 3.5 and ROMs supplied with Amikit or AmigaOne name and/or BoingBall logo. If they take some small revenue to fund PPC development, one day we might have OS 4 for it too. And it can sell well in today retro world. Having 9 pin connectors could be provided by some nice sound card OR by catweasel and an Amiga mouse and two Kempstons must be supplied. And if possible some driver for them to work under Linux and Windows.

Such machine might get slightly over 500 preorders if passess protype stage.

[Tripitaka]

AROS has enough OEM's that actually support the development of AROS not just milking it.   If we're going to hold one company to this standard we should hold everyone to it.

I agree. It depends on how the license is worded as to whether or not they are required to however. I'm sure you are more aware of the wording of that license than I am. I've not read which restrictions are placed upon OEMs with the AROS license. If it says that OEMs must support AROS in order to distribute it, well, that's what it says and then that's what must be. My question was:

Why the perception that if you put out a free OS you can expect everyone that uses it to support it in other ways too?

Perhaps I should have said:

Are OEM distributors of AROS OS based systems required to support AROS in ways other than just increasing the user base?

...that's what I was trying to find out. My bad for not thinking through my question before typing it.

[Terminills]

I agree. It depends on how the license is worded as to whether or not they are required to however. I'm sure you are more aware of the wording of that license than I am. I've not read which restrictions are placed upon OEMs with the AROS license. If it says that OEMs must support AROS in order to distribute it, well, that's what it says and then that's what must be. My question was:

Why the perception that if you put out a free OS you can expect everyone that uses it to support it in other ways too?

Perhaps I should have said:

Are OEM distributors of AROS OS based systems required to support AROS in ways other than just increasing the user base?

...that's what I was trying to find out. My bad for not thinking through my question before typing it.

To be perfectly honest AROS has license issues.   A few things need to be replaced in order for it to be used commercially.

[Florida]

I will take an Amiga 600 replica case, thank you. Money is no object. Orginal keyboard, joystick ports on the side, room for a 3 1/2" hard drive and mini itx motherboard inside, no floppy drive or DVD-drive

[jorkany]

I see what you did there, but effectively all that's happened is now there's another thread about CUSA on AO. A thread which I just bumped.

[billt]

I am sorry it is x86 not PPC but I cannot finance OS4 compatible PPC motherboard development. But if you want an x86 system like this please show support. A few members talked about donations to help (100% of your donations would be subtracted from purchase price of course).

You don't need to make yet another motherboard, just consider the available PPC OS4 motherboards as you go. Make cases able to fit standard motherboard types such as the standards done in Sam, XE, Micro, Pegasos, and/or X1000, and we're good.

[TheDaddy]

I will take an Amiga 600 replica case, thank you. Money is no object. Orginal keyboard, joystick ports on the side, room for a 3 1/2" hard drive and mini itx motherboard inside, no floppy drive or DVD-drive

I might add a "proper" keyboard to my design at a later stage once I have recovered some of the costs...

For now it comes with a modern/generic/standard one.

[TheDaddy]

You don't need to make yet another motherboard, just consider the available PPC OS4 motherboards as you go. Make cases able to fit standard motherboard types such as the standards done in Sam, XE, Micro, Pegasos, and/or X1000, and we're good.

But that is exactly what my case does... it's taken me years to make every single board fit....uh..oh apart from the pegasos but I believe that should fit too...

[B00tDisk]

3. Windows XP (or 7 if you really want) with Amiga Forever.

A few points:

You can't buy XP any more.
All XP support stops in 2012 - it will become a vulnerable sitting duck.
Toni Wilen, WinUAE author, pushes on to newer versions of Windows as soon as they come out.

[B00tDisk]

If I was going to buy a dedicated AROS box, I'd just buy my own mini-ITX and put it in a micro-tower dealie so it could sit unobtrusively on the desktop.

I don't like "wedge" computers and never have.  I tolerated it in the Vic, '64, '128, 500 and 1200 because it's what I could afford.  Once I had a PC I could expand, I never wanted to look back.  Still don't.  I think wedge PCs are shyte.

[takemehomegrandma]

just consider the available PPC OS4 motherboards

:lol:

[hbarcellos]

MorphOS is Amiga done right!

Can't really tell.

My 9600XT is not supported (my Quicksilver) (I want 3D)
My Powerbook 1.67 is not supported either

not to mention the whining about a broke hand and/or being in Antarctica...

[wrath of khan]

But that is exactly what my case does... it's taken me years to make every single board fit....uh..oh apart from the pegasos but I believe that should fit too...

.

[TheDaddy]

Damn...if I had some money left to make another prototype I would show you the black version...it looks even better than the white one...

I think the black would suit the Natami/AROS really well...argh! Damn money!

[dammy]

AROS has enough OEM's that actually support the development of AROS not just milking it.   If we're going to hold one company to this standard we should hold everyone to it.

As the person who started the first corporation for AROS via Black Troll Technology Corporation, I completely agree.