MorphOS ahead of AROS?

[Manu]

That's pretty easy.
All of it.
In fact, you don't even have to be running any additional software (and it crashes).

Whow, thank you for that, now I can just leave this thread be and spend my time on something productive. You pretty much revealed yourself as the troll you are with that.

[Iggy]

Whow, thank you for that, now I can just leave this thread be and spend my time on something productive. You pretty much revealed yourself as the troll you are with that.

Interesting idea.
Leave, post, do whatever.
As I've mentioned, I'm using AROS on a system I built just for that purpose.
And it has greatly improved since the last time I tried it (I can actually use it now - and lo and behold it actually installs!).

But I didn't start this thread with its lame premise.
Of course MorphOS is ahead of AROS and OS4.
Its been around the longest and has had occasional cash infusions from commercial companies for development/support.

As I said before, you guys are too touchy.
Take your ball and go home if you like.

[Manu]

Touchy, naah I don't think so. But you can believe whatever you want.
I don't care.

[ncafferkey]

I suppose MorphOS could quite "easily" (relatively speaking) be made running on every mac desktop and laptop from G3 to G5 by lowering its standards by running hosted, on top of a complete alien OS like Yellow Dog Linux that provides all the true low-level "OS stuff", but so far the ambition behind MorphOS has been a lot higher than simply providing some Amiga environment with a GUI on top of Linux, the ambition has always been to make a complete OS, from the ground up. One of the most important functions of an OS is to provide low level support for the hardware, and MorphOS does this in an extremely lean and effective way, from the top of the API and all the way down to the silicon.

Are you really so out of touch that you don't know that by far the most popular variant of AROS is the one that runs natively, on the silicon, without any trace of Linux?

[Terminills]

Interesting idea.
Leave, post, do whatever.
As I've mentioned, I'm using AROS on a system I built just for that purpose.
And it has greatly improved since the last time I tried it (I can actually use it now - and lo and behold it actually installs!).

This is obviously the user.   I was able to install AROS fine with no problems for years.   So it's not AROS it's the user in my opinion.  


As for touchy nope.   Not touchy at all.   But if you are going to claim something is missing could you at least give a real example.   For ****s sake I don't recall any AROS user claiming AROS is perfect I think most if not all understand it has a ways to go.  But the whole my dick is bigger than yours bs is a joke.   As I stated before not only am I an AROS user I'm also a MorphOS user.  I even said MorphOS is more polished.

[Iggy]

Touchy, naah I don't think so. But you can believe whatever you want.
I don't care.

Yes, it would ssem that way too me.
And I'm not here to make enemies, so I do care.

Are you really so out of touch that you don't know that by far the most popular variant of AROS is the one that runs natively, on the silicon, without any trace of Linux?

I do not believe he isn't aware of that.
The Linux hosted version was useful back when the product was in its earlier revisions, but native is the fastest way to run it.

[Manu]

Yes, it would ssem that way too me.
And I'm not here to make enemies, so I do care.

Nor am I. Peace brother

PS. AROS doesn't crash a lot.  

[Iggy]

Nor am I. Peace brother

PS. AROS doesn't crash a lot.  

I officially stand corrected by someone who has more experience with this then me.
I'm just starting out after two years using MorphOS.
I like what I see and promise to stop commenting on crashes as they very well could be due to something I'm doing or a problem with my hardware that I have not diagnosed yet.

[XDelusion]

No no no, I would rather NOT use Linux! Talk about a hack job on top of a hack job on top of a hack job. I've got my sights set on Haiku for the future!

As for none of the Amiga OS's having multi-core or CPU support...

...ya sucks don't it? :/

Well, the X1000 is the first PPC in our market that offers PCIe expansion (and there's still no software that really requires it there either), unless you count the meager expansion on the SAM460ex.

Consider this, PCI is inadequate for one USB 3.0 connection (it can only provide a fraction of the needed bandwidth), but one 4X PCIe connection has more then enough bandwidth for two full USB 3.0 connections.

BTW - As to your "I'd rather use Linux" comment. Do you realize that when you use an X1000 under OS4 you only have support for one processor core and 2 GBs of memory. When you run Linux you use both cores and can access 6 or more GBs of memory (not to mention better video cards)?

[Iggy]

No no no, I would rather NOT use Linux! Talk about a hack job on top of a hack job on top of a hack job. I've got my sights set on Haiku for the future!

As for none of the Amiga OS's having multi-core or CPU support...

...ya sucks don't it? :/

You got me looking into that too.
Looks neat.

And, yeah, since the Quark kernel that underlies MorphOS can support SMP it does suck. Where the f*ck is Qbox?

[XDelusion]

You got me looking into that too.
Looks neat.

And, yeah, since the Quark kernel that underlies MorphOS can support SMP it does suck. Where the f*ck is Qbox?

What is Qbox?

Also, I presume you never used BeOS back in the day? Well my man, you are in for a treat, especially once Haiku finally gets version 1.0 out the door and more people begin to code for it.

It's really really cool! Unlike ANY other OS that I've ever used, but I think you'd have to read the tech docs and play around to see that. On a side note, Haiku/BeOS has always had Multi-CPU/Core support. And it will never tell you it can't move or delete a file because it is in use (Like some operating systems I know). I.E. lets say you are downloading a file that is a few hundered Mb is size, then you decide that you didn't want to save it to where you are saving it to, and might forget where it's at when you come back later to move it. Well, no problem, you can move it while it is being downloaded, and Haiku as well as what ever software you are using to download the file, will automatically adjust! Likewise you can do this with any movie or song file that you are playing, etc.

There is a way to monitor all your running programs, see how much RAM and CPU each one is using, and even asign what CPU/Core you want to app to run on.


There is so much to say about this OS, but I'll just leave it to their web page to educate you more.

[kamelito]

Too bad that Haiku API is C++

[Mazze]

But I didn't start this thread with its lame premise.

I was a little bit offended when someone asked how we could even mention MorphOS and AROS in the same sentence. Hence I wanted to know if the difference is really that big.

[Iggy]

What is Qbox?

Qbox was to supercede or run alongside Abox and provide the functions that would break AmigaOS compatibility (like SMP).

Also, I presume you never used BeOS back in the day? Well my man, you are in for a treat, especially once Haiku finally gets version 1.0 out the door and more people begin to code for it.

It's really really cool! Unlike ANY other OS that I've ever used, but I think you'd have to read the tech docs and play around to see that. On a side note, Haiku/BeOS has always had Multi-CPU/Core support. And it will never tell you it can't move or delete a file because it is in use (Like some operating systems I know). I.E. lets say you are downloading a file that is a few hundered Mb is size, then you decide that you didn't want to save it to where you are saving it to, and might forget where it's at when you come back later to move it. Well, no problem, you can move it while it is being downloaded, and Haiku as well as what ever software you are using to download the file, will automatically adjust! Likewise you can do this with any movie or song file that you are playing, etc.

There is a way to monitor all your running programs, see how much RAM and CPU each one is using, and even asign what CPU/Core you want to app to run on.


There is so much to say about this OS, but I'll just leave it to their web page to educate you more.

No, I'm old enough to remember the glowing reviews of BeOS when it was new.
Didn't it originally run on Apple hardware/

[XDelusion]

No, I'm old enough to remember the glowing reviews of BeOS when it was new.Didn't it originally run on Apple hardware/

I think it first ran on the BeBox, then Mac, and finally PC.

I still have an Amiga magazine where it is featured on the cover as the potential future OS of Amiga.

[Iggy]

I was a little bit offended when someone asked how we could even mention MorphOS and AROS in the same sentence. Hence I wanted to know if the difference is really that big.

Actually, they're not (except that Gallium may provide an advantage to AROS).
A few parts of MorphOS actually borrow from early AROS code.
And they are both re-implenentations of the 3.1 API.
In fact, they're quite similar.
I'd never want to discourage anyone from either camp from exploring the other environment.
As each runs on different hardware, they don't even directly compete.