Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[smerf]

Hi,

@commodorejohn,

just imagine a PC turning on and not booting into windows but actually booting into the Amiga updated OS. Imagine being able to surf the net with this system, play up to date 3D modern games, with graphics and sound that are real like, and yet this system still has the functionallity of the Amiga utitlities. Just getting windows off my PC's would be a joy in itself. Never having to read Microsofts EULA, or if i change memory or a hard drive, having to call some body in India to get my computer validated. Never having to worry about how many times did I install this stupid OS, is it five or three uses before I have to buy another license.

Today's modern day computers, are great, it is the stupid Windows OS we have to use that messes them up. Linux does a good job on most software, but they lack the modern day games that have come out. If the game companies programmed games for Linux, Microsoft would probably be through.

smerf

[Iggy]

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So anonymous posts on AmigaWorld are now to be taken as legitimate corporate statements?

If AROS is legal (and I'd be willing to bet that Ben Herman's thinks it isn't) then distributing it shouldn't be actionable.

[magnetic]

Or, it could back fire and cause some people to abandon their classic Amiga's. This is affecting the communities image. Not necessarily for the better.

Yeah, thats logical *NOT*. Anyone using a classic amiga these days surely would NOT give it up over some something some company does.


and I still would like to know why this one person's opinion is considered a news item? Thats embarassing for the community , not Commodore usa.

[Iggy]

Hi,

@haywirepc,

I agree with you, PPC IS DEAD, even rotten core Mac computing company came down to that decision.
smerf

I didn't know they had any say in what other companies produced.

What you have to remember is that their are some people on Amiga.org that aren't exactly high tech. If it was up to them the 6502 or the Z80 would still be running their computers.
smerf

Actually, that would be the Motorola 68K family, some of which are still available. Amiga users don't have much use for processors that were never in their machines in the first place.
(An interesting fact - Radisys just introduced an update to OS9 for the 68K last year - its still being used)

I agree with you, and I don't care how bad they flame me. If they would have gone either AMD or Intel back in 95 we wouldn't have this problem today.
smerf

No ones going to flame you (that's your job), but I'd rather just use Windows or OSX (since AROS doesn't even support SMP)

Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.  That is why I am believing in AROS rather than MorphOS.
smerf

I didn't know we were talking about belief systems!
Did you clap for Tinkerbell when you saw Peter Pan?

I just want an OS I can use, AROS isn't out of beta stage yet.

[commodorejohn]

just imagine a PC turning on and not booting into windows but actually booting into the Amiga updated OS. Imagine being able to surf the net with this system, play up to date 3D modern games, with graphics and sound that are real like, and yet this system still has the functionallity of the Amiga utitlities. Just getting windows off my PC's would be a joy in itself. Never having to read Microsofts EULA, or if i change memory or a hard drive, having to call some body in India to get my computer validated. Never having to worry about how many times did I install this stupid OS, is it five or three uses before I have to buy another license.

Today's modern day computers, are great, it is the stupid Windows OS we have to use that messes them up. Linux does a good job on most software, but they lack the modern day games that have come out. If the game companies programmed games for Linux, Microsoft would probably be through.

That's all very lovely, but I don't see how it makes PPC "archaic" when it's a solid thirteen years younger than x86...

[haywirepc]

Originally Posted by smerf  
Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.

You're against archaic CPUs, so you're endorsing an architecture from 1978?

Yes but its an architecture that has survived in the desktop and laptop market, unlike ppc.

PPC is dead dead dead.

Maybe someone should start a bounty to get aros native drivers for this amiga mini, just to stick it in hyperion's ass.  I'd contribute to that and I don't even want one of those. I just don't think hyperion should stop someone from distributing aros with ANY computer, especially considering how much hyperion has benefited from work the AROS camp did.

God forbid someone choose x86 so they don't have to pay 3,000$ for a computer that a 50$ used mac mini matches.

"I just want an OS I can use, AROS isn't out of beta stage yet." - Really? and OS4 is? When did that happen? hahaha.


Steven

[commodorejohn]

Yes but its an architecture that has survived in the desktop and laptop market, unlike ppc.

PPC is dead dead dead.

Wait, how does "is not in use in desktops or laptops" equal "dead?" Just saying something doesn't make it so.

God forbid someone choose x86 so they don't have to pay 3,000$ for a computer that a 50$ used mac mini matches.

I don't have to pay $3000, I paid $10 for a Power Mac G4 at the recycle center that exceeds that Mini

[Iggy]

That's all very lovely, but I don't see how it makes PPC "archaic" when it's a solid thirteen years younger than x86...

Don't forget, their other favorite is ARM and  that died on the desktop even longer ago (Does anyone even remember Acorn?).

[Iggy]

I don't have to pay $3000, I paid $10 for a Power Mac G4 at the recycle center that exceeds that Mini

Aw man, I paid $7 more then you!
What a rip!

[Iggy]

Yo! Haywire, Smerf ...I already HAVE an X86 PC and I'm not going to waste three out of four cores running AROS.

[commodorejohn]

Aw man, I paid $7 more then you!
What a rip!

For that kind of markup, it should've been CUSA-badged! ;P

[Manu]

Yo! Haywire, Smerf ...I already HAVE an X86 PC and I'm not going to waste three out of four cores running AROS.

Got to LOL at this.

A complete waste would be getting a second system just to run Amigaoid OSes when
you can have it installed alongside Linux/Windows on a AMD/Intel machine.
Besides I haven't seen a program for AROS yet that needs the other cores.

A hint. It's starting to get ridiculous seeing some people having all kinds of excuses
for not running AROS. It's not like everyone is forced to use it. Try it, if you don't like
it just leave it be. There's no point going on about it forever.

[Renegrade]

Today's modern day computers, are great, it is the stupid Windows OS we have to use that messes them up.

While I have nothing good to say about Windows, it is rather unfair to lump all of the blame on Microsoft.

The underlying PC architecture is cretinous and is the poster child of the "built by the lowest bidder" philosophy.

All of the x86-64 cpus on the roadmap will still start in real mode.  Ten years from now.

I can hardly wait for 128-bit x86.. it will be like a forty stage bootstrap.  I wonder if the keyboard controller will still be gating off the A20 line at that point?

[OlafS3]

Then you should avoid MorphOS too because there is no multicore support. Or am I wrong? :-)

[gertsy]

The Amiga will never die!!!

U missed the point.  September 2010 was when you joined Aorg Kesa, you git!

[Terminills]

Then you should avoid MorphOS too because there is no multicore support. Or am I wrong? :-)

+1

You might as well add to avoid the X1000 with AOS4 also because it falls in the same boat.

Only a few months ago everyone was claiming AROS wasn't out of ALPHA yet.   So I guess we're improving.