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[commodorejohn]

Interesting opinion, but false.

Both AppliedMicro and Freescale continue to develop new PPC processors.

No current ARM processor outperforms even the dated G5.

Freescale has announce the re-introduction of AltiVec instructions to many of its PPC product lines and one processor that has as many as 20 virtual cores.

But everybody says PPC is dead! If it's repeated so much, it must be true, right?

[TheDaddy]

@kas1e

>>We all there in benchmark threads not because we want discredit or credit any kind of product.

Doesn't look like it.

>>Potential users should know the truth.

What truth there is there to know? It's not that they are hiding anything is there? You make it sound like people have been hiding stuff. If a person wants to buy an X1000 they are probably people in the know anyway, they know the specs of the machine and what to expect from it, it's PPC dual core for OS4.

Anyway, want to do the tests? Fine by me, if I can save the money I'll buy a X1000 because it'll be magnitudes faster than my SAM440ep at 666MHz running OS4, that is it.

I have already got PPC iMac, Intel based iMacs, not that I use them that often, a super-dupa PC with Win 7, I am looking to get the fastest Amiga there is or AmigaOS 4 capable machine.

So if it's slower than a PPC mac I can't care less.

Keep testing

[TheDaddy]

And the truth is quite easy. The x1000 is the fastest AmigaOs machine there is. That wasn't hard. :afro:

Way faster than my SAM440 at 666MHz and my old A1200 PPC at 266MHz, more than enough for me to warrant a purchase

[zylesea]

But everybody says PPC is dead! If it's repeated so much, it must be true, right?

well in fact everybody says ppc is dead on the *desktop* - and this is de facto true. Albeit there are a few processors upcoming whih could be nicely used with desktops. In embedded/telco/supercomputing/automotive ppc is still pretty alive.

[TheDaddy]

How so? I mean, if OS4 actually supported Xena, Xorro, the second CPU core, and the more common onboard hardware - yeah maybe it would be somebody's idea of a "dream". As it is though it's just a somewhat faster CPU & RAM.

Unless you mean, it's a dream to make OS4 look even more ridiculous, if so then point taken.

You never know maybe one day...but this is not the point, even if it did all those things there will still be someone who'd come up with a test...
I stand by my idea that all this is done to laugh at Trevor/Hyperion because someone got beaten last time and feels very angry and bitter and now want revenge!

[TheDaddy]

@takemehomegrandma

When I thought you could not sink any lower...

[lempkee]

@takemehomegrandma

When I thought you could not sink any lower...

He's been at the bottom for years (!), everyone knows that and he has been told that a million times allready.

You can even look him up in google with his real name to see, not exactly good stuff.

i can't think of a single good thing this guy has done to the community, he was even paid to slander OS4 in the early 2k's , but then again he wasn't the only one.

[runequester]

With this in perspective, a bit "amusing" to actually see someone enjoying the benefits of Kenya paying the price tag of 3-4 Core-i7 systems, for an Ethiopian "Meatballs Plus" dish, to be able to say "I am an Ethiopian(TM)".

Across the lake, in Bulgaria, people bought cheap computers for less than the price of a morph OS license, put AROS on them, and while it wasn't perfect, and while it had a long way to go....

.... it belonged to everyone, it could be freely shared, copied and distributed and could never be taken away from them.

[jorkany]

@kas1e

>>We all there in benchmark threads not because we want discredit or credit any kind of product.

Doesn't look like it.

>>Potential users should know the truth.

What truth there is there to know? It's not that they are hiding anything is there? You make it sound like people have been hiding stuff.

They HAVE been hiding stuff. Not sure if you knew this but everyone who had an X1000 until last week was under NDA.

If a person wants to buy an X1000 they are probably people in the know anyway, they know the specs of the machine and what to expect from it, it's PPC dual core for OS4.

Except OS4 doesn't support dual core.

Anyway, want to do the tests? Fine by me, if I can save the money I'll buy a X1000 because it'll be magnitudes faster than my SAM440ep at 666MHz running OS4, that is it.

I have already got PPC iMac, Intel based iMacs, not that I use them that often, a super-dupa PC with Win 7, I am looking to get the fastest Amiga there is or AmigaOS 4 capable machine.

So if it's slower than a PPC mac I can't care less.

Keep testing

Enjoy "The Power of X"
Oh wait, OS4 doesn't support that either. Bend over!

[Iggy]

I find it kind off odd (as a MorphOS) to find myself in the middle of this defending all NG OS'.

OK, so you don't like PPC. While a weaker performer then X86, PPC is clearly the most powerful alternate ISA. ARM may be a viable option soon. We'll have to see.

And I don't see the rush to move OS4 or MorphOS to X86. AROS already serves that market. And with OSX, Windows and Linux all going strong on X86 platforms, Amiga like OS' would be a hard sell.

BTW - Who really thinks there are blue and red camps? I just use the best alternative for me. For all I care, you can use whatever you want.

[Iggy]

Except OS4 doesn't support dual core.

Like that's a surprise?
No NG OS supports more then one core yet.

[jorkany]

Quite a bold statement about *all* ppc suppliers. Freescale isn't switching to ARM - they are supporting both, ppc & ARM since ages. And I don't see ibm going ARM in favor of ppc.

And I don't see IBM going PPC in favor over POWER...

[TheDaddy]

jorkany

>>They HAVE been hiding stuff. Not sure if you knew this but everyone who had an X1000 until last week was under NDA.

That means jack as IF they had something to hide it would have come out eventually so that is rubbish.

>>Except OS4 doesn't support dual core.

And it doesn't mean it won't happen...next?

>>Enjoy "The Power of X"

Will do if I can find the money to buy one.

Oh I use AmigaOS4 because it's fun and I consider it the natural successor of AmigaOS. To me a SAM or a X1000 is required to make use of it.

[jorkany]

Like that's a surprise?
No NG OS supports more then one core yet.

No other "Amiga" NG vendor is trying to sell multicore hardware claiming its an advantage with their supporting OS either.

[jorkany]

jorkany

>>They HAVE been hiding stuff. Not sure if you knew this but everyone who had an X1000 until last week was under NDA.

That means jack as IF they had something to hide it would have come out eventually so that is rubbish.

Looks like things ARE starting to come out. This is the eventuality. Expect more as time goes on.

>>Except OS4 doesn't support dual core.

And it doesn't mean it won't happen...next?

Of course! And monkeys might fly out of my ass.

>>Enjoy "The Power of X"

Will do if I can find the money to buy one.

Oh I use AmigaOS4 because it's fun and I consider it the natural successor of AmigaOS. To me a SAM or a X1000 is required to make use of it.

Honestly you're better off with the SAM. Acube is the best thing to ever happen to OS4. Support them and you might even get fast hardware that isn't based on an EOL processor with gimmickery glued to the motherboard.

[zylesea]

And I don't see IBM going PPC in favor over POWER...

Power = ppc. There's no difference anymore since Power ISA 2.03 and ppc is the outdated name. I prefer to use it out of tradition. Nitpickingly you are right, ppc is dead. But power isn't. Neither at ibm, nor at Freescale. Freescale are using both name schemes, PowerPC and Power. I think they do it because of tradition like I am doing it.


Quote from wikipedia:

The PowerPC specification is now handled by Power.org where IBM, Freescale, and AMCC are members. PowerPC, Cell and POWER processors are now jointly marketed as the Power Architecture. Power.org released a unified ISA, combining POWER and PowerPC ISAs into the new Power ISA v.2.03 specification and a new reference platform for servers called PAPR (Power Architecture Platform Reference).