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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #149 from previous page: January 13, 2012, 01:24:43 PM »
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #150 on: January 13, 2012, 01:31:29 PM »
I was just thinking how nice it was not having C=USA arguments all over the front page... it was almost like a website about Amigas.... and then it got bumped . Not good.

(incidentally, it's at the top of the front page list at the moment so I'm not bumping it myself.)
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #151 on: January 13, 2012, 02:10:47 PM »
Quote from: Transition;675558
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #152 on: January 13, 2012, 03:00:33 PM »
Duce, you miss the point of my post completely.  Those are not my points, they are of someone who has been turned off from thinking about returning to the Amiga community because of all the hateful posts in opposition to CUSA on the forums and the behavior of some members on the forums.

I don't give a rats A$$ about who hates CUSA or who loves them, I am just tired of seeing it here all the time.  If more people would just ignore the news from CUSA, it would not get 1/10 the coverage it does here on this forum.

Edit: As for the rest of your claims, please stop trying to put words into my mouth, just because you disagree with what I have written in prior posts, does not mean that your "interpretation" of what I wrote is correct.  In fact, you are way off base from the intention of what I have written on several occasions and your paraphrasing what I wrote, or what you think it means is so far off from what I meant, it is not even worth my time refuting your many posts attacking me.  Maybe if you did attend an AmiWest Show you would find out the truth about me, but if that is not possible, or desirable for you to do, then please ask people that have attended and who know me and you will find out how wrong you really are.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #153 on: January 13, 2012, 03:22:46 PM »
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Why?

No seriously, why?

I've tried so hard to ignore this thread and then you bump it. Go to the corner of the room and have a quiet word with yourself. :P
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #154 on: January 13, 2012, 03:39:09 PM »
Okay, what the hell is up with Transition bumping topics for no reason? Seriously, what?
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #155 on: January 13, 2012, 03:46:24 PM »
The ART thread I can kind of understand been bumped... But this one? For a full week no one bothered posting anything in it the suddenly a bump. Especially as there has been no new news regarding anything to do with this thread.

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #156 on: January 13, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »
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The ART thread I can kind of understand been bumped... But this one? For a full week no one bothered posting anything in it the suddenly a bump. Especially as there has been no new news regarding anything to do with this thread.



For good reason.
The fur is really flying overseas on this one. Heh.

enjoy

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #157 on: January 13, 2012, 03:54:43 PM »
I have been keeping an eye on your thread regarding this. However I still don't see the relevance of bumping this thread until CUSA actually come out with some solid announcements.

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #158 on: January 13, 2012, 03:58:47 PM »
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For good reason.
The fur is really flying overseas on this one. Heh.

enjoy

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So, did C-USA fail to pay their $250,000 to Asiarim/Commodore Corp/whatever they're called this week and thus deprive them of funds?  Is this the same C-USA that wants us to pay them in advance for new hardware?  Are they still entitled to even use the Commodore name or will that need to be renegociated?

It is all very confusing.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #159 on: January 13, 2012, 04:01:57 PM »
Anything business related confuses the crap out of me. Wish there was just a simple explanation for it all lol.

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #160 on: January 13, 2012, 04:07:41 PM »
Quote from: CritAnime;675624
Anything business related confuses the crap out of me. Wish there was just a simple explanation for it all lol.


Business "red tape" was created by lawyers to keep them working.  :D
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #161 on: January 13, 2012, 04:12:34 PM »
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So, did C-USA fail to pay their $250,000 to Asiarim/Commodore Corp/whatever they're called this week and thus deprive them of funds?  Is this the same C-USA that wants us to pay them in advance for new hardware?  Are they still entitled to even use the Commodore name or will that need to be renegociated?

It is all very confusing.



I've consulted with numerous people regarding Commodore history since the war began between Yeahronimo and Tulip.
Yes, it's confusing, because the news reports and the truth are at odds. The whole thing started out dirty and it's ending up dirty.
Names become confusing, not just because they change them, but also because there is often a "company" name responsbible for so-called daily business and a different "licensing" name operating simultaneously for just that purpose.
Example:Asiarim-daily business (lol) and Commodore Licensing B.V. (recently declared bankrupt) responsible only for the licensing end.
Fact is if all documentation is correct, the same man was in charge of Yeahronimo, CIC, Reunite, Asiarim etc.
I am extremely suspicious of Commodorecorp and their resuscitated website as well as the information posted ON it just days ago.
I reserve the right to change my opinion, but I see a fight going on to hold onto the IP and licensing rights...and it ain't pretty.

Until I see a press release regarding outcome in the court, I'm very wary of what I read anywhere else on people's "corporate" websites.

Regarding any agreement CUSA might have had with Asiarim at the time, it is my understanding that IF there is a change in ownership of the Commodore IP, there would be a grace period to address such issues. This seems logical since ownership changes are a common occurence.

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #162 on: January 13, 2012, 04:17:15 PM »
Quote from: number6;675627
I've consulted with numerous people regarding Commodore history since the war began between Yeahronimo and Tulip.
Yes, it's confusing, because the news reports and the truth are at odds. The whole thing started out dirty and it's ending up dirty.
Names become confusing, not just because they change them, but also because there is often a "company" name responsbible for so-called daily business and a different "licensing" name operating simultaneously for just that purpose.
Example:Asiarim-daily business (lol) and Commodore Licensing B.V. (recently declared bankrupt) responsible only for the licensing end.
Fact is if all documentation is correct, the same man was in charge of Yeahronimo, CIC, Reunite, Asiarim etc.
I am extremely suspicious of Commodorecorp and their resuscitated website as well as the information posted ON it just days ago.
I reserve the right to change my opinion, but I see a fight going on to hold onto the IP and licensing rights...and it ain't pretty.

Until I see a press release regarding outcome in the court, I'm very wary of what I read anywhere else on people's "corporate" websites.

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Thanks for that little summary.  Keep up the good work reporting on this "mess" and try not to go mad understanding it.  :)

It sounds like a clear case of companies within companies moving money around so that only a few people know where it is and nobody knows when chunks of it go missing.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #163 on: January 13, 2012, 05:38:30 PM »
I'm a bit confused by the spaghetti mess and what it means. Does this mean that cusa's announcement of owning the commodore brand name and ip is now bull**** like everything else they have announced? Sounds to me like not only is that now bull****, but they may not have the legal right to use the brand name commodore anymore.... See http://www.commodorecorp announcement...http://www.commodorecorp.com/

Maybe dammy their puppet would like to chime in on this?
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #164 on: January 13, 2012, 05:45:05 PM »
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I'm a bit confused by the spaghetti mess and what it means. Does this mean that cusa's announcement of owning the commodore brand name and ip is now bull**** like everything else they have announced? Sounds to me like not only is that now bull****, but they may not have the legal right to use the brand name commodore anymore.... See http://www.commodorecorp announcement...http://www.commodorecorp.com/

Maybe dammy their puppet would like to chime in on this?



I believe my post above is accurate. In the event of the change of ownership of the IP and/or licensing rights holder, there would be a grace period to address such a change.

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