Commodore trademark has a new daddy

[koaftder]

I note that you only complain when it's a CUSA zealot getting reprimanded... J-Golden has been a mod for how long, and you're only just griping now? Figures.

That's a complete load. In all the years I've been on this site I believe this is the first time I've dropped a negative comment about a mod here.

[persia]

Nah, they'll run MS Windows....

Commodore OS is a hacked old Mint version

@CUSA

After all this hype, I hope that the announcement will be for something more than a Commodore Amiga branded PC running Linux.
And no, a custom wedge shaped case is not going to make it any better.

When can we expect to see this announcement?

[amigadave]

@ Dammy:

I'm really getting tired of your smug, holier-than-thou attitude sprinkled with elitism.  It is fair to say that I'm using my full restraint to keep from banning you for a week.

Most of the replies about this news have been fair considering CUSA's track record.

I'm also sure CUSA just loves having you trying to drive in a wedge again and attempting to polarize the community but making "us" and "them" statements.  

CUSA SEEMS to be trying to do something good for the community and your venom is SURE helping their cause!

It is good to see moderators participating, or doing their jobs.

Please moderate equally against all offenders in threads where the sole purpose of their posts is to bait, disrupt, name call, post off topic about past history that has nothing to do with the current thread, and generally make threads like this one useless to the majority of silent members here that just want to read what ever news is being offered and let the thread scroll off the front page.

Please do your job and do it evenly.  If you don't know what I am talking about, I can provide dozens if not hundreds of examples, but would rather not waste my time cutting and pasting for something I am sure you are well aware of already.

It has been proven more than once in the past with polls here that the majority of members that bothered to vote here still want to see news (legitimate news) from CUSA posted on this site.  But I can guarantee you that the majority of the members here are also sick of seeing all the bickering back and forth between the supporters and haters of CUSA that pollutes every single thread that has any mention of CUSA in it, even when the thread is not about CUSA.

I am no fan of CUSA and they have no products that I am even slightly interested in purchasing, but I have no idea what they will do with the Amiga name in the future and I want to know what is done, so I continue to read most threads that contain info from or on CUSA.

Please clean this place up!

[commodorejohn]

It has been proven more than once in the past with polls here that the majority of members that bothered to vote here still want to see news (legitimate news) from CUSA posted on this site.

As one of the voters thereon, I'd like to note that there's a big difference between not thinking that a blanket ban on CUSA discussion is a good idea and wanting people to keep copypasting every decree issued forth from Barry's keyboard.

[Duce]

I am anti censorship, here and elsewhere - and that applies to C-USA as well.  I am also likely one of the most vocal of what they call "haters" in their terms.  Guys that point blank ask questions, virtually 100% of them have gone entirely unanswered.  Some of said questions asked or other criticisms, we got threatened via PM's for our troubles.  PM's were reported to mods here, did nothing at all.  The vehemence your "cause" gets on virtually all independent fan followed Amiga sites is well earned due to your treatment of the community.  Atrocious personal behavior, and that's not even scratching at the business/PR aspects.  "Insult them, ignore or threaten them if they ask questions - that will make them buy!!!11!!!!" is not working.  Be civil, sane - or go away, before even more people take it upon themselves to leave this place for elsewhere.  I have no rooted dislike of C-USA themselves, and they deserve to post relevant news here like anyone else.  I am against elitist and insulting, disruptive fanboys being ignorant to anyone that doesn't agree with them and their Holy Aura view of "The Company" here, though.

I an open to anyone posting newsworthy "news" here, and I am not damning C-USA as a whole for the spam.  When they re invent the wheel, I'll be the first one here gladly reading about the innovations they are marketing.  It's supposed to be big, you know!  

It's one, maybe 2 at best - of their fanboys that seems to think that every time "The Company" squeaks out a muffled fart, we're "saved".  

Dammy is the worst of the worst for this, and he is driving people away knowingly from A.org, pushing an agenda - using an inflammatory tone almost always in his posts.  10,000 time worse than anything Franko ever spewed - at least he was a helpful, knowledgeable type of troll at ground level, old Franko.   Yes, people are beginning to avoid this place outright because he (Dammy) has gone unchecked in his passing opinions off as "fact", only to counter with complete hostility if you pose polite questions.  Should you counter his opinion in a civil manner, you are either insulted or your valid questions are ignored.  If you are going to cram views down throats Dammy, answer questions - you are doing so much PR harm to the company you are going to bat for it is simply hysterical.  Contributing nothing to the real Amiga community other than elitism and flames via agendas.  Dammy, if I was Leo or Barry, I'd pay you to never utter the words "Commodore USA" again on any forums, lol.  No skin off me, I can follow other sites that don't essentially encourage abuse, free advertising in the guise of "news".  Money I'll save in the end by not donating to the "Kitty" to listen to weird infighting based on personal agendas on A.org.

Said it a few years ago when I saw the start of this mess - their products are not for me.  I'm fine with that.  I am also fine with the fact that if they have open season to praise said products here via non news "news" spamming, the community should be able to ask questions and have them answered.  You know, like a real adult style conversation rather than just Dammy not liking what he hears and calling everyone ****heads.

And while they continue to forcefeed you their products here for free, I might as well indulge them and you guys can take a look at their 2 adverts from their $30 million ad budget/ad agency.  It's almost like I've seen ads like that before...  Yeah, I did.  Apple.  1988.

http://www.koreykay.com/BandB/Zb_savin.html
http://www.koreykay.com/BandB/comm2.html

[TheBilgeRat]

This makes the decision to jump to morphos and apple hardware that much easier.

[tasmanian guy]

So did I pay for membership to this web site (it came up with I was paying discreetfx) when in fact it is Commodore USA that owns this site?
 
Also will they try and take my domain away from me, www.amigaformat.com
 
I hope not (nothing hosted......yet) :-)

[haywirepc]

Maybe the soap opera keeps some interested. I have to admit I check here to see whats the latest drama.

Some of the soap opera...Its definitely kept me interested in amiga goings on I suppose.

As far as CUSA I don't think they ever can recover from their past.

Its hard to forgive a "company" that is based on lies, half truths, website text stolen from apple, fake pictures, all the announcements of new products that never see the light of day, stickers slapped on existing products, claims of a 30 million dollar advertising budget, insulting every other amiga camp, stolen website graphics, claims of their products in retail stores that never become truth, claims they will make 25,000$ workstations with an amiga badge that never materialize as real products and so much more.

If they just shut up, stop lying, stop running on hype and deliver real products instead of hype and lies, people could evaluate and base their opinions on what they produce (instead of basing your opinion on their long list of bull****) maybe they would garner better support from retro fans and amiga enthusiasts.

The Amiga curse is in full effect on them. They are like the perfect continuation of a long list of Amiga grave robbers making wild claims and never delivering anything of any real value to people who care about Amiga.

To me, it just appears to be some guy with some money who is paying to fuel some fantasy that he is the owner of a company he once respected and liked in his younger years, and he's doing a horrible job of it so far.

AND I think the legal stuff with amiga is a real joke. I still think everyone who cares about amiga should make and start selling their own version of a new commodore amiga, put the boingball, checkmark and Commdore AMIGA logo on it and lets see if they can really claim ownership of those things and prove it.
Barry, Silly Billy and all the other amiga grave robbers would bankrupt themselves trying to prove ownership, when the real truth is they can't.

So far, no one has ever proven in court they own roms, logos, trademarks, or anything else related to amiga. What especially AINC does not want you to know is that since they illegally transferred "assets" to a shell to avoid paying back investors (a criminal act) they can not continue to profit from that criminal act, ask any attorney. Yet they have for years and we've let them.

The truth is they can't really prove ownership of anything. Just like cloanto can't really prove why it has been robbing the amiga community for years for roms that are 15+ years old now that no one really owns.

And we all just let the amiga grave robbers continue to try and rob people for a history and a legacy that WE the users should really own.

Meanwhile, there are worthwhile projects like AROS, Icaros, AEROS, IMICA,MORPHOS, Netami, minimig/minimigaga and so on being developed by people who obviously have a real passion for amiga. They can't use the amiga name, boingball or whatever because the amiga grave robbers won't let them.
Yeah that makes sense...
Steven

[Krischan76]

Infidels will convert or face eternal guru meditation!

[klx300r]

@ digitex

still posting this stuff here after all the comments you made about the Amiga community:confused:

[TheDaddy]

So then you are going to be celebrating with us then when the official news is announced!  Excellent, I was hoping once you gave up on the hate, you would be a solid C=USA supporter.  



For those people, since you evidently are going to be celebrating with us on the great C=USA news you are not are apart of them, are going to be hating life as well as C=USA after this announcement until they too can accept the futility of hating the inevitable.

No Dammy, no. I don't hate CUSA I despise their behaviour and what they have done in the past. Why do you need me to become a solid CUSA supporter?
When the announcement arrives I'll be leaving the scene after 30 years! To you, CUSA and its followers' delight

[haywirepc]

I agreee... If the rumors that they have also bought amiga.org are true... Myself and most others will be leaving for amigaworld or other options leaving this place to be an internet ghosttown. Much like cusa.org or whatever they have now if you look at it that proves that they sold maybe 100 computers,
to uninformed dumbasses.



I hope the rumors are not true.

[klx300r]

I agreee... If the rumors that they have also bought amiga.org are true... Myself and most others will be leaving for amigaworld or other options leaving this place to be an internet ghosttown. Much like cusa.org or whatever they have now if you look at it that proves that they sold maybe 100 computers,
to uninformed dumbasses.

I hope the rumors are not true.

+1 ...sad but true:madashell:

aw.net, amigans.net, lemonamiga.com, eab but this place never again :afro:

[spihunter]

Egad! If that is true this place is going to turn into a ghost town with Dammy talking to himself. I already have accounts setup at EAB, AW.net, & Morphzone if this is the case.....

I agreee... If the rumors that they have also bought amiga.org are true... Myself and most others will be leaving for amigaworld or other options leaving this place to be an internet ghosttown. Much like cusa.org or whatever they have now if you look at it that proves that they sold maybe 100 computers,
to uninformed dumbasses.



I hope the rumors are not true.

[commodorejohn]

I agreee... If the rumors that they have also bought amiga.org are true... Myself and most others will be leaving for amigaworld or other options leaving this place to be an internet ghosttown.

Wait, wait, is that what this was about? Because if that turns out to be true, you bet your life I'm leaving this place.

[Akiko]

I agreee... If the rumors that they have also bought amiga.org are true... Myself and most others will be leaving for amigaworld or other options leaving this place to be an internet ghosttown. Much like cusa.org or whatever they have now if you look at it that proves that they sold maybe 100 computers,
to uninformed dumbasses.



I hope the rumors are not true.

Can someone at DiscreetFX confirm or deny these rumours?

If this is the case I'm out of here.