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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #104 from previous page: January 02, 2012, 04:51:19 PM »
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Yes it is a answer.  You may not like it, but that is your problem.

http://www.uspto.gov/faq/trademarks.jsp#_Toc275426712
We all know that one can defend non-registered trademarks, I already acknowledged that three days ago.

But to be defendable, it has to be in active use - that's why I pointed you to the Wikipedia article, which says "five years". I'm all interested in more precise documentation, but your above link is useless in this context.

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No, I didn't miss it. I just don't care.
If you don't care, why do you make claims about AInc/CUSA being able to defend it? To determine if they are able to defend it, you need to know the mark's last use in commerce.

So, once again: If it's not registered and you don't know when it was last used commercially, on what grounds do you claim that anybody owns enforcable rights regarding this mark?
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #105 on: January 02, 2012, 05:13:36 PM »
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We all know that one can defend non-registered trademarks, I already acknowledged that three days ago.


So why are you stuck on this subject then?

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But to be defendable, it has to be in active use - that's why I pointed you to the Wikipedia article, which says "five years". I'm all interested in more precise documentation, but your above link is useless in this context.


Why would I trust Wiki for a legal opinion?

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If you don't care, why do you make claims about AInc/CUSA being able to defend it? To determine if they are able to defend it, you need to know the mark's last use in commerce.

So, once again: If it's not registered and you don't know when it was last used commercially, on what grounds do you claim that anybody owns enforcable rights regarding this mark?


Then do as you wish, I don't have a pony in that race.   That would be up to C=USA and it's legal department to deal with and I'm pretty confident C=USA won't give an inch with out a court battle.  You want to risk that, fine by me, Wal-Mart has tons of popcorn on the shelves.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #106 on: January 02, 2012, 05:26:21 PM »
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So why are you stuck on this subject then?

Because I actually care about the topic? You're the one who doesn't ("I don't care").

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That would be up to C=USA and it's legal department to deal with and I'm pretty confident C=USA won't give an inch with out a court battle.

You mean the same "legal department" who told Barry that the checkmark and the letter "A" are registered trademarks? I'd love to see this "legal department" perform in a "court battle".
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #107 on: January 02, 2012, 05:29:24 PM »
If we REALLY think about it, the checkmark is owned by the Amiga community :)
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #108 on: January 02, 2012, 05:49:42 PM »
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Then do as you wish, I don't have a pony in that race.   That would be up to C=USA and it's legal department to deal with and I'm pretty confident C=USA won't give an inch with out a court battle.  You want to risk that, fine by me, Wal-Mart has tons of popcorn on the shelves.
Oh yes, tremble before big bad Barry! He'll destroy us, man, like Stone Cold Steve Austin in a court of law-wrestling defending that unregistered trademark!

Wal-Mart popcorn = what Barry can afford after spending $30 mil advertising and God knows how much development/manufacturing funds on something like twelve people bought.

(P.S. Quick, someone make a series of checkmark shirts on Cafepress and then register the trademark based on that.)
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #109 on: January 02, 2012, 05:51:01 PM »
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Why would I trust Wiki for a legal opinion?


Why would we trust someone who posts pictures of a factory in Germany?

Barry's "Legal advice" is probably some divorce lawyer who hangs out at the same golf club as he does.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #110 on: January 02, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »
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Why would we trust someone who posts pictures of a factory in Germany?

Well, contrary to popular belief we actually DO have some factories left here. ;-)
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #111 on: January 02, 2012, 06:09:26 PM »
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Well, contrary to popular belief we actually DO have some factories left here. ;-)


LOL.  That wasn't quite what I meant...  :D
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #112 on: January 02, 2012, 08:17:35 PM »
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Oh yes, we need some clarification on that amiga.org rumour.


Amiga.org is owned by ...

What is this ? ...
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #113 on: January 03, 2012, 04:12:48 AM »
All i can say is LMAO.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #114 on: January 03, 2012, 04:54:21 AM »
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This makes the decision to jump to morphos and apple hardware that much easier.

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #115 on: January 03, 2012, 09:16:42 AM »
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All i can say is LMAO.


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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #116 on: January 03, 2012, 11:39:32 AM »
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All i can say is LMAO.


Well I LOLed :)
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #117 on: January 03, 2012, 12:33:46 PM »
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Why would we trust someone who posts pictures of a factory in Germany?

Barry's "Legal advice" is probably some divorce lawyer who hangs out at the same golf club as he does.


I hope it's a better "legal team" than the ones who cut & pasted a letter from Apple's site to threaten OSNews with.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #118 on: January 03, 2012, 01:32:46 PM »
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I hope it's a better "legal team" than the ones who cut & pasted a letter from Apple's site to threaten OSNews with.
oh. it's much better than that. :lol:

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #119 on: January 04, 2012, 12:41:04 PM »
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So the trademarks are now officially owned by Nicholas then? This is excellent news! Thank goodness for that, someone we can actually trust for once.


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