ELBOX New Spider device

[matthey]

so execuse me if i now say, that i have an impression the whole campaign was an attempt at damaging elbox public image in exchange for how they treated chris.

No, I don't excuse that.

Ok, so much for "bygones" Chris. How about modifying your USB device for OpenPCI which Elbox doesn't like and sticking them with a bunch of nearly worthless Spider cards they can't sell. I thought it was worth a try anyway .

[Hizoap]

They plugged the 5$ card into a PC, started the NEC supplied programming tool, changed the subsystem ID, removed the card and put the yellow sticker on.
The ATC chip can be reprogrammed by PCI accesses over the NEC chip. No need to start soldering. NEC provides all necessary information to registered users of their webpage.

Michael

No, they did not - at least not on the card I got.
I'm am sure Nec have a programming tool for these cards but Elbox did not use that software on all of the Spider 2 cards - maybe they did on some.
See my pictures.

Check out the solder work on my Spider 2 card. The serial eprom has been removed and they had some work done to the low voltage dropout regulator.
Look at the 'blob' at the tab (Vout) on the regulator not to speak of the work on C10.

Also, took a photo of an identical ebay card.

[wawrzon]

@matt: perhaps chris doesnt need to bother with that, if jason picks up the job.

[matthey]

@matt: perhaps chris doesnt need to bother with that, if jason picks up the job.

Sure, but then Chris wouldn't be able to extract his revenge by depriving Elbox of sales and sticking them with a bunch of modified USB cards they can't sell .

Would the AROS USB driver use OpenPCI? It would be nice if AROS incorporated OpenPCI but then they probably already have another PCI interface? Do your Mediator Voodoo 3 or Radeon P96 drivers work in AROS yet? I heard that AROS was working on supporting P96 drivers.

[platon42]

Ok, so much for "bygones" Chris. How about modifying your USB device for OpenPCI which Elbox doesn't like and sticking them with a bunch of nearly worthless Spider cards they can't sell. I thought it was worth a try anyway .

Hmmm... why is it so hard to understand what I've written. I don't excuse the impression of wawa, and why should I, because IMHO it is very far from the truth.

There are easier solutions to your suggestion.

[wawrzon]

@chris:
chris, sorry i wasnt around, only have red about the whole story afterwards. im not saying piru is lying about that, but was under impression it might be a wrong assumption after all. i had a regular customer support contact with elbox (mediator), and it just doesnt fit in my head that they might do such an evil thing as piru was accusing them of, but im apparently too trusting a person.

@matt: yes as far i know (jason) aros will take openpci into account on 68k. p96 drivers are already working on real hardware (zorro). ive tested cv64. still buggy though, but work.

[mboehmer_e3b]

Check out the solder work on my Spider 2 card. The serial eprom has been removed and they had some work done to the low voltage dropout regulator.
Look at the 'blob' at the tab (Vout) on the regulator not to speak of the work on C10.

Agreed. Maybe you only get 3.3V only card nowadays, with the LDO missing, so it was added (no 3.3V supply on older Mediators). Most PCI cards can be fixed for 3.3V or 5V only systems, take the RTL8139 100MBit cards, old versions have an LDO, newer ones two series diodes, and most new one rely on 3.3V from PCI. But solderpads in most cases survive, so cards can be adjusted.

Pretty sure that there's some programming tool provided by NEC, anyhow.

Michael

[Ratte]

Interesting. Do those card revisions have the same PCI ID?

Which actually reminds me: You could easily create a patch to the pci.library so that it'd report any NEC USB card as having the same PCI ID as Spider 2. Assuming the chipset is the correct one it'd work. This way the spider driver would stay untouched and RDB destruction wouldn't happen either.

findpciclasscode $c0320 (uPD720100A USB 2.0 Host Controller)
(d0 = devicestructure)
compare vendorid $1033 = NEC, ok go on
compare subsystemvendorid $0e55 -> write $0ee4 to the structure
compare subsystemid $2928 -> write $089e to the structure

[carvedeye]

Poseidon 4.4 works fine on my A1200T with AmigaOS 3.9

Click for picture:

Wow nice workbench what do you have under the hood?

[danbeaver]

1) The spider.device is up to 3.22 a download from the beta section.
2) As far as programming an NEC card, Mech has the actual details.

[Frags]

Or you could spend the same money on a powermac and forget all this classic ****.

[runequester]

Or you could spend the same money on a powermac and forget all this classic ****.

You seem to have mistaken apple.com and amiga.org

[Frags]

You know full well what I mean.

[wawrzon]

You know full well what I mean.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Frags  
Or you could spend the same money on a powermac and forget all this classic ****.
You seem to have mistaken apple.com and amiga.org

i think its been meant as mos promotion. even though a little too emotional to my taste. however as i suspect youre the guy who ranted on aw.net and then spent some serious amount of money on mos and os4 bounties you might have a reason to do so. the problem is, the scene is so diverse that its difficult to expect people to follow any common patch anymore.

wish you luck, but have chosen to stick with aros68k and the hardware i have for the time being. euae and radeon drivers might be of advantage to everyone if they be open sourced. however its not mine to tell..

[runequester]

You know full well what I mean.

you know, It's people like you that kept me from buying into MOS for 2 years.

[danbeaver]

MorphOS is a lot like the Canadians