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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 24, 2011, 12:59:28 PM »
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I'm afraid I would need a little favor to proceed faster. This is what I would need.

1) Download this archive http://phase5.a1k.org/download.php?f=a12c7b93e0a936ab933791543da26d84&countonly=1
2) Extract the archive and put this file BlizzPPC060Update to formatted 880k AmigaDOS disk
3) Convert this disk as ADF file
4) email it to me at hanzux (at) gmail.com or provide me with download link
5) once I received it I will post here to let others know I don't need it anymore

Why don't I do this myself with all that gear in my sig, you may ask. Because right now they are not where I'm and all I have in front of me right is A1200 mobo without any OS installed where I'm supposed to try the flashing and PC with Catweasel 4 where I could write ADF-file as a flashdisk.

If there is no-one who can do this for me. It takes several days before I'm with those A4000 to do it myself.


No Problem... do you want it left in the lha archive or extracted to disk on the ADF file... :)
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2011, 01:04:07 PM »
@Hanzu,
 
I've asked this, because I have flash content:
https://picasaweb.google.com/110121921198567459630/BlizzardPPCFlashReadingWriting#
 
I can send it to you, no problem (I'm at work now).
But you have to be sure that BPPC itself is ok.
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2011, 01:05:19 PM »
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No Problem... do you want it left in the lha archive or extracted to disk on the ADF file... :)


What I mean is that I need ADF-file that contains image of normal AmigaDOS disk containing BlizzPPC060Update.

The disk does not need to be bootable or have startup-sequence since I will boot from Early Startup and just type BlizzPPC060Update to flash.

And do not worry I won't blame anyone if flashing fails. That is expected.
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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 01:14:45 PM »
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What I mean is that I need ADF-file that contains image of normal AmigaDOS disk containing BlizzPPC060Update.

The disk does not need to be bootable or have startup-sequence since I will boot from Early Startup and just type BlizzPPC060Update to flash.

And do not worry I won't blame anyone if flashing fails. That is expected.


That's what I ment, I'll extract the archive and create a normal AmigaDOS ADF image. I'll have to leave out the 040 update though as there is too much data to fit onto an Amiga floppy image... :)

Give me a few minutes and I'll send it to you... :)
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 01:15:26 PM »
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@Hanzu,
 
I've asked this, because I have flash content:
https://picasaweb.google.com/110121921198567459630/BlizzardPPCFlashReadingWriting#
 
I can send it to you, no problem (I'm at work now).
But you have to be sure that BPPC itself is ok.


Wow! That adapter looks nice. Did you do it yourself for Willem or is it bought one?

Maybe I would be better off buying one programmed 29F040  from you and soldering it to the board...?

But like you said I'll see first if card is visible in early startup without anything in flash.
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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 01:26:20 PM »
Sent the ADF... :)

Hope things work for you... :)
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2011, 01:33:46 PM »
Ok, no problem.
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 01:59:41 PM »
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But like you said I'll see first if card is visible in early startup without anything in flash.


If you manage to boot the miggy with the card plugged in, you should be able to run the standard flash utility with the FORCE param (or so). I've used this in the past to force-flash a broken card after a friend decided to reboot while in the middle of flashing process.
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2011, 03:01:51 PM »
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But you have to be sure that BPPC itself is ok.
Unfortunately now that I tested A1200 will not boot with this card at all. So I could not do any flashing.

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Sent the ADF... :)
Thank you. It will come handy if I meet more Blizzard PPCs later on.

Sorry for wasting everybody's time by talking about flashing when I should have tested the card first with empty flash memory.

Now situation is this:

-Power LED flashes with endless loops of resets.
-screen is black and/or dark grey
-Holding mouse buttons to get to Early Start Up is not working.
-Pressing ESC, 2 or S from keyboard do nothing.
-CY7C3741 chips seem hot when touching them

+All soldering looks good and I have actually measured every solder to have contact with their pad
+060 CPU is socketed by me
+card surface is not damaged even though it is multilayered. I inspected it with microscope before soldering CPU socket
+CPU is not faulty since it came from another source. I can test it in Cyberstorms to make sure it didn't get broken now by faulty card
+Fan is rotating.
+There is new thermal paste in PPC CPU heatsink.
+A1200 is Rev 1D4
+PSU is old Bigfoot
+Blizzard PPC has no SIMMs installed
+"jumper"-resistors are set correctly
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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2011, 03:35:40 PM »
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+Blizzard PPC has no SIMMs installed

Try with a SIMM. IIRC BPPC doesn't work without.
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 03:44:14 PM »
@ Hanzu

Sorry to hear you couldn't get it working... :(

Been a long time since I've opened my tower to check anything but I notice you did say the BPPC has no simms installed...

If I remember correctly I when I first purchased mine I tested it first to see if it was working without any simms and got nothing, pretty sure you have to have simms installed before it will work... ;)

Or it could have been the fact that I had to replace the edge connector on mine, think old age is creeping up on me memory... :)
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2011, 06:21:22 PM »
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It would be nice to hear if anyone could borrow DIL40 to TSOP32 adapter like this or provide a link where it would be available with a lot cheaper price:
http://www.elnec.com/products/programming-adapters/?f=DIL32_TSOP32_ZIF_18.4mm


If you want to create a programming adaptor on the cheap, what about using one of these:

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2031+204786&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=TSOP+adaptor&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial

The disadvantage of these adaptors is of course that you would have to solder the devices to the adaptor first, program them, and then desolder.  The advantage is that it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a TSOP ZIF socket.

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2011, 08:10:14 PM »
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Try with a SIMM. IIRC BPPC doesn't work without.

Thank you for the idea! Although I have doubts it is true since none of the other Phase 5/DCE I have had B1240/B1260, CS1, CS2, CSPPC have required it. But will be worth trying anyway as I have tons of SIMMs available with all sizes from 128MB to 1MB.

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If I remember correctly I when I first purchased mine I tested it first to see if it was working without any simms and got nothing, pretty sure you have to have simms installed before it will work... ;)

Or it could have been the fact that I had to replace the edge connector on mine, think old age is creeping up on me memory... :)

I wish would have got nothing either, but A1200 resets with first second blinking power led. I'm pretty sure if SIMMs would be required it would do nothing without and not crashing. But worth trying indeed. I wonder if both SIMMs are required or just one and if one only then which one is bank 0. The 90 degree one or 45 degree one. I guess I should really read that from PDF manual...

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If you want to create a programming adaptor on the cheap, what about using one of these:

http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2031+204786&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=TSOP+adaptor&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial

The disadvantage of these adaptors is of course that you would have to solder the devices to the adaptor first, program them, and then desolder.  The advantage is that it's a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a TSOP ZIF socket.

AH

Thank you for the idea. I'll memorize that if I get the card working and flashing with adapter becomes crucial. The good thing is that I work in electronics industry where we use Farnell as one of the suppliers.
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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2011, 09:58:17 PM »
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Thank you for the idea. I'll memorize that if I get the card working and flashing with adapter becomes crucial. The good thing is that I work in electronics industry where we use Farnell as one of the suppliers.

Yes me too - I'm an Electronics Engineer.  And, as we're a manufacturing outfit as well as Engineering, we order a lot of components and that means we get end of line pricing with Farnell and RS.  This is great for us in Engineering when we just want to order ones and twos of components for prototypes and we get the cheapest prices :)

Good luck with your card repair.  There's an old saying here in the UK; "misery loves company".  It's quite apt because I have a broken PPC card to deal with as well.  In fact, I have two!!!

AH
 

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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2011, 11:55:29 AM »
DCE should give back the PPC cards they have in their basement for good use! They literally robbed those from users! Also the damn PPC-schematics should be given/released to people who could actually do something GOOD with them. Good ol' PPC's could then possibly be updated/maintained (hardware-/firmware -wise) but stupid DCE just holds these things for themselves for NO reasonable reason :furious:
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Re: Blizzard PPC flash update - which flash excecutable to use?
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2011, 10:34:05 AM »
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DCE should give back the PPC cards they have in their basement for good use! They literally robbed those from users! Also the damn PPC-schematics should be given/released to people who could actually do something GOOD with them. Good ol' PPC's could then possibly be updated/maintained (hardware-/firmware -wise) but stupid DCE just holds these things for themselves for NO reasonable reason :furious:

I agree, but if I understood correctly years ago some Amiga users made them so angry by their wrong type of approach that the one who would have the power to release all data holds them like it is still a war going on between them and current Amiga users. No matter how much they are insulted, still they should show us some gratitude that we bought their products back when they were new and kept them in business. For what I understood pretty much everything Phase 5 or DCE manufactured for Amiga was sold out. So what more we should have done. It is not our fault if there is no enough profit or if design has flaws or production has bottle necks.

It could be also that they do not want to release schematics, part lists and so on because they are afraid that someone would use their old know-how to design new accelerator cards. If so why won't they do like GVP (Great Valley Products) did and re-released some of their best cards?

If they have any reservations for plans like GVP, they should act now before some of the key components used become so obsolete that all their products would need to be radically redesigned which would require new reserch and developent and not just some production lines and some people to operate, inspect and repair production.

The longer they wait the less value that old data is to them, since Indivisual Designs has already made some new low end accelerator cards to fill A1200 and A600 slots and things like Natami are also going to eat intrest for classic Amiga hardware.

I have no idea why DCE which is still existing but cut all ties to Amiga, has not sold their licences and data to Indivisual Designs, Vesalia or some other German based companies since communicating and negotiating locally would be quite easy. Assuming getting money for something that has no value for them is always welcome.

What we could do as community would be to make a petition for the one who can decide what to do with schematics.

Or we can wait for those to be transferred to future generations who might be more understanding and release them, but if so that is going to be too late since we are getting too old before that. :)

BTW. Why is Indivisul Design not producing anything 060 related? I just bought two new unused 68060 sockets from China, so something like sockets can not be reason. If they have no source for 68060 they could make a card with socket only so we could use our old 060 CPUs when everything else fails.

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Anyway back to the topic

-This Blizzard PPC is not booting with SIMMs either.
-Holding A is not working either and I assume there would have to be some content inside 20F040 for those key holding functions to work.
-Tried to switch those 50MHz oscillators with no help
-Once I got dark red back ground.

Would Blizzard PPC 060 require so much power that I would have to misuse A1200 mobo floppy PSU connector output as input to get the card to boot? I would expect old A1200 bigfoot PSU can supply enough voltage so that supplying additional voltages through floppy PSU connector would not be required.
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