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Offline kickstart

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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #119 from previous page: August 14, 2011, 02:48:01 AM »
Another thread invaded by the annoy frankos posts and hard to follow... where is the moderation in this f#ck#ng forum?

Go to see braveheart and relax franko.
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #120 on: August 14, 2011, 03:10:52 AM »
Or reenact brave heart in your local grocery store.

I know I do!
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #121 on: August 14, 2011, 07:53:13 AM »
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England you say... you could be making that up and I wouldn't know, prove it then, if you really live in England then what colour is it... :)


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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #122 on: August 14, 2011, 08:00:32 AM »
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So... Will my NTSC SuperGen work?

If you can't get it to work on your real classic Amiga then how on Earth would it work on a Natami?

If your SuperGen won't work on your classic Amiga then either:
A: You are doing it wrong.
B: Your SuperGen is broken.

I cannot think of any other possible explanations.
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #123 on: August 14, 2011, 08:27:26 AM »
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You keep asking people what do you suggest but can only come up with the same answer time and time again, why not try and suggest something else yourself (and I don't mean the same old Quake 2 or Doom clone answer) instead of just criticising others and giving the same answer over and over again... ;)

Hey guys before you murder each other, :)  I already coded a timing test a century ago.  It times the multilayer with transparency 2D blitting speed on AGA.  It does CPU operations and memory reads and writes.  It is a "real life" timing test from Total Chaos AGA.  I have been doing timing tests on a wide range of Amiga hardware since 1985.

This test will not satisfy Henry Case and I already know he will write a big speech why this test sux, blahblahblah yadda yadda.

But I think Franko is scientific enough to at least appreciate the timing test for what it is: It is a timing test to measure how many layers of 2D gfx (with transparency) I can push around per frame on AGA.

Can we all go back to being friends again now? :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #124 on: August 14, 2011, 12:08:11 PM »
Well, I know that only two things were slow on my Amiga: AB3D II and Extreme Racing. NatAmi has more then enough power for those games. I would say several times more than enough power.
Soo one more thing is the amount of chip ram. Me and my bro always try to make marathon cartoons and run out of chip ram. So maybe now we can really let loose.
Easy connection to modern screens is also a big plus.
I know it will be much faster in rendering, but for my simple scenes in Maxon A1200 with fast ram is also enough :D
 
That's just off the top of my head for now...
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #125 on: August 14, 2011, 12:46:22 PM »
@ ChaosLord

Me scientific... nah... I'd don't believe anything until I have studied it thoroughly, scrupulously analysed it, studied it wee bit more then analysed it again just to make sure... ;)

Nothing scientific in that, just being picky... :)


@Lord AGA

With you on the Chip RAM, you can never have enough Chip RAM (although not quite the problem it was if you have plenty of Fast RAM & FBlit installed, good, but far from perfect)... :)

Thing is like I said before really until the day we can start to buy these for ourselves it's all just speculation and hope for now, only when folk have these little beauties themselves will we truly begin to find what the NatAmi is capable of... :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #126 on: August 14, 2011, 12:59:16 PM »
Quote from: ChaosLord;654624
If you can't get it to work on your real classic Amiga then how on Earth would it work on a Natami?

If your SuperGen won't work on your classic Amiga then either:
A: You are doing it wrong.
B: Your SuperGen is broken.

I cannot think of any other possible explanations.


he is trying to use a PAL amiga with a NTSC genlock ... go figure!
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #127 on: August 14, 2011, 01:10:17 PM »
And another thing I just remembered :)
NatAmi will also have an A500 keyboard connector (in addition to standard keyboard connectors). Sooooo... :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #128 on: August 14, 2011, 01:21:22 PM »
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And another thing I just remembered :)
NatAmi will have an A500 keyboard connector. Sooooo... :)


Drat... All I've got are A1200's and a couple of A2000 & A4000 keyboards... :(

Oh well better have a wee look on eBay now... :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #129 on: August 14, 2011, 01:26:24 PM »
Oh no, it will not be A500 connector only. Don't get me wrong.
You will be able to use your A2000/A4000 keyboards just fine. Also PC keyboards. But I don' think we like that :)
It is interesting to think of a say... a broken A500, with motherboard removed. And NatAmi motherboard inserted :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #130 on: August 14, 2011, 01:35:43 PM »
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Oh no, it will not be A500 connector only. Don't get me wrong.
You will be able to use your A2000/A4000 keyboards just fine. Also PC keyboards. But I don' think we like that :)
It is interesting to think of a say... a broken A500, with motherboard removed. And NatAmi motherboard inserted :)


I did think I had read that somewhere that I could use the A2000 or A4000 keyboard with it... :)

While I'd most likely build a custom tower for mine (bit like my main A1200) to add plenty of HD's, DVD writers etc... I had also though it would be neat to build one into an A1200 case... :)

Suppose it will all depend on how good it is once it's launched and it's availability, might end up with one towered and another in an A1200 case... :)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #131 on: August 14, 2011, 01:40:52 PM »
If you take a looksee at progress reports, you can see in the pics that right now the boards are working with big box Amiga keyboards.
And just like you, I already have several ideas how I would like to build my NatAmi setups.
Just need to rob a bank somewhere :D
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #132 on: August 14, 2011, 02:13:31 PM »
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If you take a looksee at progress reports, you can see in the pics that right now the boards are working with big box Amiga keyboards.
And just like you, I already have several ideas how I would like to build my NatAmi setups.
Just need to rob a bank somewhere :D


Just make sure it's not the one in the High Street, cos I've been casing that joint for months now... ;)
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #133 on: August 14, 2011, 05:09:54 PM »
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I think Piru feels threatened by the NatAmi, simple reason being that when it becomes available we will truly have a "new" Amiga that can run at speeds unheard of before (even with a PPC board), ease of use for adding things like HD's DVD writers etc... but most of all the threat comes from the fact that it's 68K (so to speak) and will run 3.x at speed we could only ever dream about before... :)


Yeah, and Cloanto's Amiga Forever runs about 5 times faster than you could dream about before. The only thing is you don't want to buy an advanced up to date computer to try it.

Piru, you shouldn't worry that this will stop people using MorphOS or that you'll lose custom because of it, as I reckon most MorphOS users are too mean anyway to shell out the cash that a NatAmi will cost, so you and the hundred or so MorphOS users can go on with your system while the rest of us real Amigans enjoy the dream machine we have waited so long for... ;)


Yeah, I want to shell out the cash, for another Amiga want to be that isn't up to date, or as fast as a so called piece of trash PC machine. The legacy lives on. YIPPPEEEE!!!
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Re: 3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!
« Reply #134 on: August 14, 2011, 05:17:53 PM »
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Yeah, I want to shell out the cash, for another Amiga want to be that isn't up to date, or as fast as a so called piece of trash PC machine. The legacy lives on. YIPPPEEEE!!!

Hi Smerf... :)

Where you been you grumpy old fart... :)

Anyhoo... you aint got not taste man and you're far too sensible to appreciate what sploshing the dosh on a brand new outa date bit of hardware really means... ;)

You stick to crappy PC's and leave the Amiga Legacy & Tradition to be proudly continued by us loonies who know a real computer when we see one... :)

Cheers

Franko

PS: Did they manage to get all one hundered and eleventeen candle on your birthday cake... :)

EDIT: Oi... cheat you've just gone and an changed yer avy-tar... :(
« Last Edit: August 14, 2011, 05:19:21 PM by Franko »
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