3 more NatAmi's - Yippee!

[Franko]

Yeah, I want to shell out the cash, for another Amiga want to be that isn't up to date, or as fast as a so called piece of trash PC machine. The legacy lives on. YIPPPEEEE!!!

Hi Smerf...

Where you been you grumpy old fart...

Anyhoo... you aint got not taste man and you're far too sensible to appreciate what sploshing the dosh on a brand new outa date bit of hardware really means...

You stick to crappy PC's and leave the Amiga Legacy & Tradition to be proudly continued by us loonies who know a real computer when we see one...

Cheers

Franko

PS: Did they manage to get all one hundered and eleventeen candle on your birthday cake...

EDIT: Oi... cheat you've just gone and an changed yer avy-tar...

[mongo]

he is trying to use a PAL amiga with a NTSC genlock ... go figure!

Shouldn't matter. When plugged into a genlock, the Amiga is clocked by the clock on the genlock, not the clock on the motherboard. Plugging an NTSC genlock into a PAL Amiga should turn your PAL Amiga into an NTSC one, at least in theory.

[smerf]

Hi,

@HenryCase,

You want an  idea how to stress test your machine, the royal great Natami, have it play FarCry, Crysis, or Fallout 3. Then you will catch my interest, and I will definetly buy. Ubisoft started with Amiga, and with a few kind words they might just try porting it over to your machine (if it is good enough).

Don't get me wrong, but to me anything under 2.4 ghz is a total waste of time.

smerf

[Forcie]

Don't get me wrong, but to me anything under 2.4 ghz is a total waste of time.

Hello. Natami is a hobbyist project. We are pushing the limits for what is possible making an Amiga compatible system with current small-scale production tech. Producing a 2.4 GHz system like you are demanding would require hundreds of thousands of dollars for development and production. Would you be interested in financing that? Unless you want to, I suggest you stick with a standard PC if you need those speeds.

Natami is for people who actually want to use an Amiga-compatible computer with some modernizations, not for someone wanting to play the latest 3D games. It is a small niche system. Put it into some perspective.

[smerf]

Hi Smerf...

Where you been you grumpy old fart...

Anyhoo... you aint got not taste man and you're far too sensible to appreciate what sploshing the dosh on a brand new outa date bit of hardware really means...

You stick to crappy PC's and leave the Amiga Legacy & Tradition to be proudly continued by us loonies who know a real computer when we see one...

Cheers

Franko

PS: Did they manage to get all one hundered and eleventeen candle on your birthday cake...

EDIT: Oi... cheat you've just gone and an changed yer avy-tar...

Hi,

Have a bunch of real computers, An Amiga 4000, Amiga 1200, Amiga 3000, Amiga 500, CD32 with SX-1, and Cloanto's Amiga Forever.

Franko,
You stick to crappy Natami's and leave the Amiga Legacy & Tradition to be proudly continued by us loonies who know a real computer when we see one...

Just bustin ya, I will wait and see, wait for the Amiga people to go out and buy one, and see how they like it. If they praise it, I will probably buy one, but I still think that anything under 2.4 ghz is slow, but then again, in real time not computer time, windows is one big bloat machine, just don't understand how I could have a 6 core 3.2 ghz machine that is slower than my A4000 while running windows. I feel like I am back in the C64 days when I turn on my Quad core today, I start it then go make a cup of coffee while loading windows up. Once it gets up and running it is pretty good, and I play a bunch of games that stress's out the machine.

Lately I have been playing the add ons to Fallout New Vegas, the deadmans hearts game is just awsome, old world blues was pretty good, but broken hearts was just awful, took me only 4 hours to beat it. Getting ready to download Crysis 2, (I think) lost track of numbers, getting old you know, on my 112th birtday don't you know.

One thing I found out about PC games, you can beat them, try saying that about most Amiga games, they are very frustrating, but the one thing I liked about Amiga games is that they keep track of high scores which makes them a lot of fun.

Just a matter of what you call a real game.

by the way I changed my avatar back to the original, I thought the last one was a little cheesy ;-)

smerf

[commodorejohn]

You want an  idea how to stress test your machine, the royal great Natami, have it play FarCry, Crysis, or Fallout 3. Then you will catch my interest, and I will definetly buy. Ubisoft started with Amiga, and with a few kind words they might just try porting it over to your machine (if it is good enough).

Yeah, port Fallout 3 to NatAmi and have people see it demoed as an underpowered PC as opposed to seeing something actually designed for its capabilities? That's a good idea.

I still cannot fathom this mindset that the only true measure of success for an Amigoid project is to be capable of copying everything the mainstream industry is doing. If your goal for such a project is just to become exactly like the industry standard, what the hell is the point? Just don't bother at all.

Don't get me wrong, but to me anything under 2.4 ghz is a total waste of time.

What the hell are you doing here, then?

[smerf]

Yeah, port Fallout 3 to NatAmi and have people see it demoed as an underpowered PC as opposed to seeing something actually designed for its capabilities? That's a good idea.

I still cannot fathom this mindset that the only true measure of success for an Amigoid project is to be capable of copying everything the mainstream industry is doing. If your goal for such a project is just to become exactly like the industry standard, what the hell is the point? Just don't bother at all.

What the hell are you doing here, then?

Hi,

When the Amgia first came out, it was a top of the line futuristic machine. It was doing things that no other computer could do, that is why we all liked and purchased the Amiga.
Actually copying the mainstream industry today is just about what any computer should do. It would be hard to think up something new for a computer today. I don't want to see a copied little bit faster imitation Amiga coming out, I want to see something come out that could uphold the orginal Amiga, a machine that can take crysis and twirl it around it's space bar. I want new innovation, not copy cat tech. Apple changed, people cried, then went on with business as usual. What am I doing here?

You all cry about Cloanto's Amiga forever not being a real Amiga, yet it is using the latest hardware with the latest tech, just like the ORIGINAL AMIGA, yet you all want to see a redone out of date computer come to being.

My question to you is

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE?

THE ORIGINAL AMIGA WAS ABOUT INNOVATION, IT DIDN'T COPY ANY OTHER COMPUTER, IT WAS THE LATEST AND THE BEST, AND I WON'T LET ANY OTHER FAKE, IMMATATING SYSTEM TRY TO STEAL AWAY THE ORIGINAL AMIGA'S LEGACY.

SMERF

[Acill]

I can not wait to see this in action. I hope something will be show this year at the AmiWest show. I miss being as involved in the Amiga scene as I once was and something like this would get me back into it for sure.

I'm looking to pick up a Minimeg, but if this is close to release would it be worth waiting for?

[Franko]

Hi,

Blah... Blah... Blah... (sorry had to cut that part as it not what I'm going to post about)...

THE ORIGINAL AMIGA WAS ABOUT INNOVATION, IT DIDN'T COPY ANY OTHER COMPUTER, IT WAS THE LATEST AND THE BEST, AND I WON'T LET ANY OTHER FAKE, IMMATATING SYSTEM TRY TO STEAL AWAY THE ORIGINAL AMIGA'S LEGACY.

SMERF

Hi Smerf...

Your confused aint ya (forgot to take the meds toaday !!!)...

Yes the Amiga was Innovative, so why on frigging earth would anyone with any brains want to go to all this bother to create the NatAmi just so monkeys can play the crappiest games ever designed on it !!!

You talk about Fallout, Crysys 2 etc... (you know, the games brain dead people with no imagination play and are easily impressed by, poor sods) but you simply fail to understand the NatAmi wasn't designed to waste it's time on such crap...

You already have the solution to play such games, your PC's that you say are sooo great and yet your still not happy with them, you really are befudeled today...

So that begs the question, even though I know you've got a large Amiga collection that you don't use under the guise that you are "saving them" and instead choose to run an Amiga emulator on one of your crappy PC's that you don't even like... :confused:

Soooo, why do you bother with the Amiga at all if, A) You never use one (and no, running an emulator on a PC doesn't count) and B) Are you really not an old geezer after all and just some spotty seventeen year old who thinks 3D style games are cool and drives a laughable souped up tiny compact car where the sound system is worth more than the vehicle itself...

Cheers

Franko

PS: That avatars better, the jebus like one was more like one of XDelusions cast offs...

[commodorejohn]

When the Amgia first came out, it was a top of the line futuristic machine. It was doing things that no other computer could do, that is why we all liked and purchased the Amiga.

Huh. I got into the Amiga long after the fact, when it hadn't been state-of-the-art for years, because I found that it had a clever, well-thought-out design that I respected and wanted to experience.

Actually copying the mainstream industry today is just about what any computer should do.

But if you're just going to copy the mainstream, why bother at all? There are countless x86 PC manufacturers out there who make them better and cheaper than any hobbyist project ever could. There is exactly zero point in trying to best the whole PC-clone industry at its entire purpose.

It would be hard to think up something new for a computer today. I don't want to see a copied little bit faster imitation Amiga coming out, I want to see something come out that could uphold the orginal Amiga, a machine that can take crysis and twirl it around it's space bar. I want new innovation, not copy cat tech.

But if you think it's too hard to innovate, how can you turn around and demand innovation? Or if you don't think it's outside the realm of possibility, why do you think people shouldn't bother and just settle for copying what the rest of the industry is doing?

Apple changed, people cried, then went on with business as usual.

And now they make machines that are merely pretty good but overpriced PCs in fancy cases. Joy. But even now they're still doing their own thing with iOS devices and OSX, not simply copying everything the rest of the industry does.

My question to you is

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE?

THE ORIGINAL AMIGA WAS ABOUT INNOVATION, IT DIDN'T COPY ANY OTHER COMPUTER, IT WAS THE LATEST AND THE BEST, AND I WON'T LET ANY OTHER FAKE, IMMATATING SYSTEM TRY TO STEAL AWAY THE ORIGINAL AMIGA'S LEGACY.

I am here because I value the Amiga for what it is, not because I want a cool name to stick on my x86 clone box. I want to see projects like NatAmi come to fruition because they're trying to improve on the Amiga's substance, not some half-mythic Symbol that I worship.

[desiv]

You want an  idea how to stress test your machine, the royal great Natami, have it play FarCry, Crysis, or Fallout 3.

OK, so you want something that can do what's been done before.. Got it..

THE ORIGINAL AMIGA WAS ABOUT INNOVATION, IT DIDN'T COPY ANY OTHER  COMPUTER, IT WAS THE LATEST AND THE BEST, AND I WON'T LET ANY OTHER  FAKE, IMMATATING SYSTEM TRY TO STEAL AWAY THE ORIGINAL AMIGA'S LEGACY.                      

Ok.. so no copying...
So you're point is..  er.. um..  uh..  :confused:

desiv  ;-)

[Franko]

He he... I think Smerf got out smurfed today...

He'll be back (after his meds) to try once again and burst everyone's bubble, he's the best bubble burster around (normally), guess he was having an off day today...

[HenryCase]

Don't get me wrong, but to me anything under 2.4 ghz is a total waste of time.

Don't buy the Natami then. Problem solved.

B) Are you really not an old geezer after all and just some spotty seventeen year old who thinks 3D style games are cool and drives a laughable souped up tiny compact car where the sound system is worth more than the vehicle itself...

Ah, so that's what you mean by 'boy racer mentality'. So anyone who enjoys games in 3D has a 'boy racer mentality, yes?

[Franko]

Ah, so that's what you mean by 'boy racer mentality'. So anyone who enjoys games in 3D has a 'boy racer mentality, yes?

Correcto mundo...

[HenryCase]

Correcto mundo...

Your perogative I suppose. Are you sure you're not just saying that because you don't enjoy them?

[Franko]

Your perogative I suppose. Are you sure you're not just saying that because you don't enjoy them?

True & nope...