Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only

[Iggy]

And just some quick links to back up my statement:

Holger Kruse mentioning IPv6 in 1999 - allthough he never really got started on it, he knew it was ahead. Implementing multicast support in MiamiDx was one milestone on the way, as MC is mandatory for IPv6 to work.

Me whining about IPv6 support in MiamiDx back in 2000 on the REBOL mailing list.

I never said IPv6 wasn't important, kolla. IPv4 is virtually obsolete, so change is inevitable.
What I don't understand is why you think OS support for IPv6 isn't possible to introduce.

[XDelusion]

I've never heard of it. What ever became of plain old fashioned HTML anyhow? The internet sux now a days. You got adverts, pop ups, adware, etc. It's like you go to load one page, but your are gathering data from a billion other servers at the same time. I hate it and would gladly go back to the 1994 standard any day...

...with today's speed of course.

As for videos, I'll download them, streaming sux anyhow cause you can't keep what you watch. Meh, tired, must go home and milk the goat.

Where's Franko?! :/

[kolla]

I never said IPv6 wasn't important, kolla. IPv4 is virtually obsolete, so change is inevitable.
What I don't understand is why you think OS support for IPv6 isn't possible to introduce.

I don't think it's impossible, I just think noone is interested in doing it, and regardless, it's waaaay late in the game now. To be of any use, all applications in use that supports tcp/ip need to be partly rewritten and updated as well.

[pVC]

I found an old post of someone trying to use just an original A1200 for his day2day computing needs.
Anyone already tried that with MorphOS, Amiga OS 4.1 or AROS?

Tried? I've been using MorphOS as my main daily computer since 2004, and before that I used my fully upgraded monster A1200

That would include iOS devices sync? Coding for a mainstream platform?

Can't say about that. Never had any need on those. But of course you can connect to remote computer with SSH2 if you have coding environment there Depends how you define your mainstream coding... of course there are editors, but if you want to cross compile or something like that...

[pVC]

The only things I would need would be:

-Browser that works with Gmail, Google docs.

OWB can do that.

-PDF reader (for resturant menu's )

APDF is included with the OS and even if it's not fully compatible with everything, I've found it good enough to show that kind of things. Most ads, restaurant menus etc have worked here with it.

- Movie player like VLC

MorphOS version of mplayer is more than enough for that. I'd say it's the best version of mplayer on any platform It has good GUI and works like charm. There's also VLC port available, but it's more immature and there's no need for it because of the excellent mplayer port.

-Bit Torrent clinet w/GUI

There are some clients, but they aren't as good as µTorrent etc on other platforms. You can get job done if you want, but I'd recommend to have some other spare machine for heavy use.

-Simple image editor

Included ShowGirls is just marvellous for digital photo handling etc. It does all the needed basic effects etc. But if you need more like drawing app, then there are many 68k options. ArtEffect, FXPaint, Photogenics, ImageFX, TVPaint, PPaint.. oh and included Sketch for simple drawing. Depends what you want to do in practise...

[pVC]

Just installed MorphOS 2.7 on my Quicksilver 933 1.5gb RAM with a Radeon 9600 XT.
first impressions:
1) No support for Brazilian ABNT Keybord!
2) font is too small!
3) It`s not exactly flying, but I`m only using it for 5 minutes. I`ll post more impressions later.

1) Ask for it! (mailing list, irc, bugreport)
2) Change it
3) Should be pretty snappy, but I haven't ever seen it on that gfx card... maybe its drivers aren't that finished yet and missing 3D might affect too.

two questions:
1) having no 3d acceleration impacts on performance, or just when using 3d games? What I`m missing?
2) How can I tell if I`m already pass the 30 minutes period? Just by looking at the watch?

1) You'll miss enhanced mode in normal use too. All windows in Ambient etc would be drawn using so called 3D layers, using 3D hardware on gfx card. That would enable shadows and transparency effects etc, there wouldn't be any tearing in window moving, double or triple buffering could be used... etc..

2) There will be nag requester and you probably notice the slowdown too

[pVC]

Is there a decent native mail client? You could just set GMail up for POP3 or IMAP use. (I doubt that'd help with Google Docs, though.)

I use SimpleMail for GMail. No problems with that, it supports secure connections etc needed.

[takemehomegrandma]

And how good is the best browser available?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origyn_Web_Browser

It is based on webkit. Why it's not as good as safari or chrome?
Why it can't render google documents or gmail?

The name "OWB" for Fab's MorphOS browser is really confusing and should obviously be changed ASAP. This is nothing like "OWB" on OS4 or AROS. In fact, I think there isn't much "OWB" left in it at all...

It's a webkit based browser (*the same* engine as in Safari and Chrome), capable of HTML5/CSS3, javascript, etc. It's heavily inspired by Ibrowse, it's very feature rich and since it's a real MUI4 application it looks and behaves in a way that any Amigan used to Ibrowse simply loves!

You can easily use this as your single, true, everyday web browser. Everything works, Facebook, Google Apps, etc.

Heck, even the online version of Microsoft Office works!

The only, single set back I can think of, is the rather poor Flash support, but that is not a unique issue for MorphOS, and at least when it comes to video/utube there are nice workarounds...

[hbarcellos]

1) You'll miss enhanced mode in normal use too. All windows in Ambient etc would be drawn using so called 3D layers, using 3D hardware on gfx card. That would enable shadows and transparency effects etc, there wouldn't be any tearing in window moving, double or triple buffering could be used... etc..

Well, so looks like I'll have to wait for rv300 support anyway. I don't have plans to buy "another" old card! I don't have more free space to store my "vintage" tech material.
It's the same core of the mobile radeon on powerbook g4s?

2) There will be nag requester and you probably notice the slowdown too

Well, I ended up seeing that. In the middle of the "Ultimate Pack" installation!

I had to install Tiger again and I have created 3 partitions:
1) ~50gb for tiger
2) ~20gb for MorphOS
3) ~10gb for OS9

But then I found that I needed another tiny partition to boot MorphOS. Is it possible to install morphOS on the 20gb partition without destroying the tiger installation? What's used for boot manager?

[jj]

There is a guide on how to do what you require.   But its using ubuntu.
 
Bootmanager, hold down ALT whilst booting the machine lol

[commodorejohn]

I've never heard of it. What ever became of plain old fashioned HTML anyhow? The internet sux now a days. You got adverts, pop ups, adware, etc. It's like you go to load one page, but your are gathering data from a billion other servers at the same time. I hate it and would gladly go back to the 1994 standard any day...

I'm with you there, but IPv6 is actually pretty important - we're running out of IP addresses with the current 32-bit scheme. (And it only relates to the number of places you can transport data to, anyway - it has nothing to do with crappy modern Web content.)

[Iggy]

Well, so looks like I'll have to wait for rv300 support anyway. I don't have plans to buy "another" old card! I don't have more free space to store my "vintage" tech material.
It's the same core of the mobile radeon on powerbook g4s?


Well, I ended up seeing that. In the middle of the "Ultimate Pack" installation!

I had to install Tiger again and I have created 3 partitions:
1) ~50gb for tiger
2) ~20gb for MorphOS
3) ~10gb for OS9

But then I found that I needed another tiny partition to boot MorphOS. Is it possible to install morphOS on the 20gb partition without destroying the tiger installation? What's used for boot manager?

When we receive Powerbook support we should get R300 3D drivers.
No one seems sure if this will be in the next revision or the one after (although I'd bet on the latter).
Your MorphOS partition may be a bit small if you want to install the "Ultimate Pack", but you probably won't use everything in the package so you could install the titles selectively.

[krashan]

1) No support for Brazilian ABNT Keybord!

If you will submit the keyboard layout description, and test it then, this keymap can be added to the system. Contact me privately if you are interested.

[lsmart]

The only things I would need would be:

-Browser that works with Gmail, Google docs.
-PDF reader (for resturant menu's )
- Movie player like VLC
-Bit Torrent clinet w/GUI
-Simple image editor.

Why do you say you "would need" them? I´d expect all of it to work on MorphOS, since all the people here keep telling me MorphOS is so much better than AmigaOS 4 and none of it is a problem on AmigaOS 4.

I don´t have any MorphOS experience - so enlighten me, if I am wrong.

However after two years of using a SAM440EP Flex running AmigaOS 4 as my main machine. I recently bought a new PC for that purpose. The Sam isn´t completely retired and it was sure fun during those two years, but I simply wanted to use a faster machine that would take new sound- or gfx-boards without any trouble.

I am the kind of person that really loved the original look, feel and organsization of Workbench. I never looked at the early Dopus and disliked popup-menus, focus follows mouse, autoraise or anything that would take away my icons. This was the reason to get the SAM.

If somebody made a Linux-Desktop-Environment  and toolkit that would imitate Intuition & Workbench to the last detail, I´d walk some extra mile to use it. That being said Unity is not bad, but extremely buggy and Linux won´t see my blueray drive at all.