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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2011, 08:05:26 PM »
I have an Aspire One, and while I am growing fond of Aros, I can not deny that MorphOS is light years ahead. And I've also heard that it is snappier than OS 4, but can not confirm this.

Also for the note, there are a slew of classic Amiga apps that run just fine on MorphOS without being bothered by the lameness that is UAE.

Not trying to start a flame war of course, I just want MorphOS' many strengths to be known so more people might give it a look. It's awesome!
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2011, 08:34:48 PM »
Hi,

sorry to say this but an aspire is lame... ; ) ATOM sucks badly.
*duck*
But if you run AROS on an 2.7GHZ ore more with a few MB cache i am not sure if UAE is lame. The last fixes deadwood did to speed up OWB have also accelerated things like Quickstarter and Other apps.

No flame wars ; ) i am selling AROS PC's and tell you MorphOS is fine/numero uno. They have the better overall package "still". But AROS has some other things ahead.... Gallium and Wifi for example. Now AROS can benefit from getting for example Ambient. MOS can benefit from Gallium and Wifi...
 

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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2011, 08:56:11 PM »
AROS can run 68k binaries by double clicking on it? Just like OSX's Rosetta (ppc->Intel)?
MOS and AOS4.1 can do it, right?
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2011, 09:00:10 PM »
AROS can this too:
http://www.youtube.com/user/AresComputer1#p/u/4/CtvfmTadXbk

but it needs for now AmigaForever.

This may change with AROS 68K sooner than later.
 

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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2011, 09:17:23 PM »
Aspire One is a pile of crap, but with AROS, it ain't too shabby. I just to pretend it is not what it really is. :)

And for the note, you can not run Amiga Classic Apps on AROS without UAE. MorphOS on the other hand can handle classic apps just fine, so long as they do not need the original chip set.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2011, 12:00:52 AM »
Just installed MorphOS 2.7 on my Quicksilver 933 1.5gb RAM with a Radeon 9600 XT.
first impressions:
1) No support for Brazilian ABNT Keybord! :)
2) font is too small!
3) It`s not exactly flying, but I`m only using it for 5 minutes. I`ll post more impressions later.

two questions:
1) having no 3d acceleration impacts on performance, or just when using 3d games? What I`m missing?
2) How can I tell if I`m already pass the 30 minutes period? Just by looking at the watch?
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2011, 12:03:59 AM »
Oh, and Google documents seems slower than OSX tiger (same HW, of course)
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2011, 12:26:30 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;646919
This post just about describes me. I only use windows for my Doom and Media editing needs for the most part.

I gave up on Doom after pretty much memorizing the entire layout. I now primarily play with QuakeIII Arena which will run under MorphOS.
About the only thing I miss is good Flash support under OWB.

MorphOS is a fine daily use OS. I have three Windows machines that see very little use.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2011, 12:44:55 AM »
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I gave up on Doom after pretty much memorizing the entire layout. I now primarily play with QuakeIII Arena which will run under MorphOS.
About the only thing I miss is good Flash support under OWB.

MorphOS is a fine daily use OS. I have three Windows machines that see very little use.


That's what extended Doom ports are for, they give Doom capabilities it never had before thus making it less predictable and more complex. Also there is a Massive Mod community for it who have converted it into various things such as a Half-Life clone with 3D models and all. I've also ran a few Quake 3 maps on it that worked Exactly like they would have in Q3 itself. You really have no concept of what you are missing! :)
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2011, 12:51:37 AM »
There's even a random map generator, though it's hardly up to, say, Angband standards of level quality. Still, worth a look.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2011, 01:05:54 AM »
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Oh, and Google documents seems slower than OSX tiger (same HW, of course)


Google document is a bit slowish, but let's not forget everything is rendered with software cairo there.
On the other hand, video playback is way faster than OSX on the same hardware, be it with mplayer or with owb html5 video (when it's in overlay mode).
 

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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2011, 01:42:03 AM »
Since I live in the future and my home is native IPv6, MOS/O4/AROS only is a no-go.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2011, 02:02:46 AM »
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Since I live in the future and my home is native IPv6, MOS/O4/AROS only is a no-go.


That is a poorly worded statement. You live in the present and hope for a future.

Further, I see nothing stopping any of those OS' from supporting future internet standards like IPv6, so I have no idea why you brought it up.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2011, 02:35:47 AM »
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That is a poorly worded statement. You live in the present and hope for a future.

Further, I see nothing stopping any of those OS' from supporting future internet standards like IPv6, so I have no idea why you brought it up.

I live in the future, because in my present, IPv6 is not a future internet standard, but one that's already more than a decade old. Or it might just happen that you live in the past, take your pick.

I've been bringing up the issue about IPv6 for more than a decade now, you see I live in the future and my home has been IPv6 native since 2005. Don't believe me? Try searching the Miami mailing lists - Holger Kruse was the only amiga developer ever who ever did anything in regards to IPv6, I was whining about it already back then. The things stopping any of the AmigaOS "spin offs" from supporting this decade+ old internet standard is ignorance, highly optimistic views on what routers can do, and a huge faith in that IPv6 will never happen.
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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2011, 02:43:10 AM »
And just some quick links to back up my statement:

Holger Kruse mentioning IPv6 in 1999 - allthough he never really got started on it, he knew it was ahead. Implementing multicast support in MiamiDx was one milestone on the way, as MC is mandatory for IPv6 to work.

Me whining about IPv6 support in MiamiDx back in 2000 on the REBOL mailing list.
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A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

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Re: Living with MOS/AOS4/AROS only
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 27, 2011, 05:31:08 AM »
Quote from: kolla;647266
And just some quick links to back up my statement:

Holger Kruse mentioning IPv6 in 1999 - allthough he never really got started on it, he knew it was ahead. Implementing multicast support in MiamiDx was one milestone on the way, as MC is mandatory for IPv6 to work.

Me whining about IPv6 support in MiamiDx back in 2000 on the REBOL mailing list.

I never said IPv6 wasn't important, kolla. IPv4 is virtually obsolete, so change is inevitable.
What I don't understand is why you think OS support for IPv6 isn't possible to introduce.
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