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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #119 from previous page: June 08, 2011, 05:36:02 AM »
I try to use mine at least once a week maybe more now but I really need to learn more in commands in  CLI box and such. I have a 1200 and a 2000 both very good machines
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #120 on: June 08, 2011, 01:15:16 PM »
I boot my A2000 for several hours once or twice a week depending on what I am interested in working on.

Lately, it has been for setting up a Kickstart 1.3 system with an old 2090 controller and Miniscribe 20MB MFM HD. I like the old OS's the best, writing mountlist entries, ARexx scripts, searching through mountains of FredFish and AmiNet collections looking for tools and utilities.

I use UAE here and there, mostly when I want to mount a SCSI HD on an old Adaptec board I have in a spare PC and set it up for my Amiga without messing with floppies, ADF's make less of a mess.

After decades, I am still surprised by what the Amiga can do, and there has never been a time where using the Amiga wasn't fun.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #121 on: June 09, 2011, 03:56:24 AM »
233 voters so far in this poll.  Not bad, more than I expected to vote, but I wonder how many more lurkers are here that use their Amigas, or Amiga-Like systems regularly, but don't participate in polls, or usually post messages in the forums?

I also wonder how many people here think that there are more people that read these forums and don't post replies, or vote, than there are that do participate  on forums and vote in polls?

Are there more people that still use Amiga computers and never use this, or other Amiga forums out there, or are the majority of active Amiga users members of at least one or more Amiga forum site?
« Last Edit: June 09, 2011, 04:04:18 AM by amigadave »
How are you helping the Amiga community? :)
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #122 on: June 09, 2011, 04:03:55 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;643721
233 voters so far in this poll.  Not bad, more than I expected to vote, but I wonder how many more lurkers are here that use their Amigas, or Amiga-Like systems regularly, but don't participate in polls, or usually post messages in the forums?


Seems to me,  many people only post when need help ..
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #123 on: June 09, 2011, 10:30:41 AM »
Out of curiosity how many users are there on the other Amiga forums? Is Amiga.org one of the larger ones? Lemonamiga seems quite large...  :)
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #124 on: June 09, 2011, 11:20:42 AM »
German http://www.a1k.org/ seems to have 100 - 200 posts per day with about 1200 regged members.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2011, 12:06:10 PM »
lurker here, have a working 1200 that Ive been meaning to get ethernet for.
Any amiga news still has hypno-toad scale pull on me.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2011, 12:38:52 PM »
I am looking to move into the Amiga Like area with Murks and Aros running better.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2011, 01:28:07 PM »
Quote from: lsmart;639556
Right. I was also thinking about people who treasure their old box, but wouldn´t dream about reading in a forum or getting updates/repairs. They won´t turn on the machine in any regular interval. However I think they do matter and belong to the community in a way.


Own the machine(s), BUT use WINUAE/UAE weekly should be an option for sure.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2011, 09:11:55 AM »
There is one more AmigaOS4.1 User from now on. After nearly 20 Years of using Windows-shit I am back and bought a SAM460ex. :)
 
I did not know that the amiga is still alive since I googeled for it a few months ago. I was really surprised as I read of the G4/G3, the SAM and the X1, too.
 
I really hope that the developement of hard- and software will continue, so that this great OS4 has the oportunity to rise up again.
 
Unfortunately a lot of former AOS Users do not know about all this. I am sure at least as many users which are needed to grant the developement should be out there and only needed to be reactivated :hammer:
 
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #129 on: November 14, 2016, 09:48:08 AM »
I have two Amiga 500 computers and Amiga 1200 and an AROS setup. I may not always use the computers on a specific regular interval pattern. I would probably say that I would more often use the AROS setup than I would the original hardware but I would run the original hardware on a maintenance run so to speak in that parlance.

I also have a Windows computer set up. I also have my Commodore, Atari, Apple II series, TI-99/4A, NES & SNES hardware to cycle through but also use the emulators. The reason that I do use emulation is in the development cycle. I would like to know the market size of the Commodore 64/128 and the Amiga. I know there is considerable overlap. On the other hand, it is really hard to predict. On the emulation front, there is no knowing how many unique users have the emulators in each platform. There is also the ability to recapture former Commodore users via the emulator front. This user base would easily outnumber the number of people who may actively use the original hardware. From a commercial video game developer point of view, the number of C64 users would be important to projecting sales potential from a return on investment point of view but also in terms of how much resources (especially financial resources) in producing the works. A commercial video game developer even for the Commodore or Amiga computers will have to make a reasonable amount of money and sales in order to be able to continue doing so. We don't spend a full-time work load producing commercial quality games to be earning less than we could working for a burger joint. Duh, Captain Obvious. We know that, right. Indeed.

On the flip side, it is very difficult to know how many. There is a very small percentage of the Commodore community who solely uses these classic computers. There are still some that do exist.

The emulator front consists of users who actively uses the original hardware and actively participate in the users groups. There is probably an unknown quantity of more people who have downloaded emulators and downloads the original games and demos for the C= & AMIGA computers and plays them on the emulators. Most of these people may not even be in any way or form being involved on the forums or they just browse the forums without ever creating accounts for leads to new games and demos to play and enjoy. This number of people can possibly reach the levels of 10 to 1 ratio to that of the people who still uses the original hardware and from time to time uses it and participate on the forums. If 1,000 to 2,000 people are active on the forum and there is probably around 10 times that that are semi-regular but there is another 10x times that.

If we learn from the C64DTV sales, if there is sufficient awareness brought out to the market at large, over a 100,000 people are interested. It is highly unlikely a couple thousand individuals bought up the 250,000 units supplies by any measure. That would be an awful large amount. I would say there is probably around 100,000 to 200,000 users on the emulation front for C64/128 and the Amiga. They probably amounted for nearly 1/3 of the sales of the C64DTV for example. The same crowd that downloaded some version of any of the C64 emulators that exist probably bought a C64DTV.

From a developer point of view, I would have to expense with some major capital to catch enough attention to get them. It is easiest for me, the lowest and easiest to reach branch to get the core communities that uses the forum. They would likely be the ones that will buy a video game for the C64 or Amiga.

This market size is probably around ~10,000 give or take. It is very unlikely from a sales point of view that 100% of those users would buy one's product. Getting 10% or even 20% of them to buy a video game, that was developed, would be amazing. In my rule book, on this market would be amazing. If we could get 20,000 to 50,000 C64 emulator users to be actively perusing the C64 forums and involved more, greater the market pool could be. Similarly, the same would be for the Amiga community.

The key is getting them out of the shadows of the internet and into the light some. Even my estimate from the C64DTV sales being emulator users, the potential size of the C64 emulator user base can be well into the millions. Then emulator users may not identify themselves as C64 users or Amiga users even though they use the emulators. This users base size could easily be reflected back on the original C= and Amiga market by a substantial level. While some of the original users have died. There have been others in the broader "retro computer" community, namely the retro/classic gaming community, that has been interested in the C64 and Amiga even though they didn't own one back in the 1980s or had later been introduced to them. So it does become a give or take. The emulator users base dominates the major portion of this retro/classic computer & console gaming community. This community is probably on the orders of around 5% to 10% of the original community given these systems have been part of the generation's cult culture of the late 70s and 80s and even into the early 90s. These systems and their games are icons of our generation's youth and holds a special spot in our hearts. In that respect, the user base as a whole can be a lot larger than we may notice.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #130 on: November 14, 2016, 10:16:15 AM »
Just to add to the figures, there has been between 50,000 to 100,000 installs of VICE for a couple versions of them on Android from what I can tell. That's between 100,000 and 200,000 installs for VICE between two versions of it from two different individuals. Frodo is estimated to have somewhere between 100,000 and 500,000 installs on Android.

My guess is Frodo's installs are probably around 100,000 to 125,000.

If I do these figures, that's around 200,000 installs. If I were to assume about 4 average installs per unique user. That would be 50,000 users. There is probably a portion of C64 users who are not Android users on other platforms such as Mac, Windows and Linux that isn't an overlapping users. Lets do the figures and I am looking at maybe 75,000 to even 100,000 users. It is possibly even bigger than that. I can't possibly figure the unique users factor. Amiga community at large in the emulation market is hard to gauge. There is no knowing. We can really see the market becoming a bit larger than a couple thousand or even 10,000.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #131 on: November 14, 2016, 06:59:11 PM »
Hi, all!

Haven't logged in for a while but still have my towered Amiga 1200 near me.
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #132 on: November 14, 2016, 08:12:44 PM »
lol at thread necromancy to remain people register to write a post about being infected again and disappear forever again.
 

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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #133 on: November 15, 2016, 01:46:11 PM »
Holy necro, Batman!

Still lurking, 5 years later tho'. :D
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Re: How many Amiga users are left?
« Reply #134 on: November 15, 2016, 04:18:15 PM »
I use my Amiga 1200 every week, I may not be on here as much as I used to be, but all the same for the the Amiga was the first computer I went over to after the Commodore 64/128.
I got my Amiga A600 many years ago then onto the A1200 with great pride, for me the Amiga is the only computer with a heart and soul, no other can compare to that.
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