How many Amiga users are left?

[the_leander]

Ooops...

I arsed that on up a wee bit... I was Amiga92570 who I meant (changed it now) and not yourself, reckon I got a bit mixed up somewhere along the line as it was me and you who were talking about this subject then Amiga92570 joined in... humble apologies Mizar...

Well anyway I agree in part with what you say but can only stand by what I have said based upon my own experience and so therefore I am right and you are right but I still say I'm more righter than you are in this case...

Erm... is righter a wurd !!! (if not then it soon will be cos I'm writing it in my dictionary right now in me best red crayon...)  

I'd have to agree with your basic premise on this one Franko, for the reasons both you and someone else outlined above. Further whilst larger capacitors might be able to take a larger hit before frying over more modern surface mount components it doesn't take away from the point that turning systems on and off does over the long term do more damage than simply leaving them on as far as the electronics go.

I imagine this is part of the reason so many TV's and other appliances offer a standby as the default rather than simply off on these days.

[Franko]

I'd have to agree with your basic premise on this one Franko, for the reasons both you and someone else outlined above. Further whilst larger capacitors might be able to take a larger hit before frying over more modern surface mount components it doesn't take away from the point that turning systems on and off does over the long term do more damage than simply leaving them on as far as the electronics go.

I imagine this is part of the reason so many TV's and other appliances offer a standby as the default rather than simply off on these days.

WOW... where you been hiding...

Yeah, even as far back as the early 80's I found this out with the old C64, most retailers at that time would tell you that almost all of the returns were down to the PSU's blowing, due to the simple fact of switching it on and off so many times...

It wasn't until folk started making or buying reset switches that enabled you to reset so called "reset proof" games that this problem regarding the C64 died out...

[vidarh]

It wasn't until folk started making or buying reset switches that enabled you to reset so called "reset proof" games that this problem regarding the C64 died out...

Heh. I remember the poor mans solution to freezing games from before I got my first Action Replay (and before I learned enough asm etc. to be able to work my way around these things in other ways):

Turning the machine off and on quickly enough a couple of times and save the memory... If the game didn't use any parts overwritten by BASIC, you could get it that way, as it took at least a tenth of a second or two without power before the RAM on the C64 was cleared enough to be useless...

Amazingly I never did blow any C64 PSU's. Did blow several IC's, over the years, and had a dust fire in one...

[bison]

"Amiga-Like" (E-UAE on Linux) and pancakes (with blueberries).

I could be persuaded to vote "Classic" if I could just find a brand new A3000 still in the box that's been sitting in some old lady's basement for the past 20 years...

[the_leander]

WOW... where you been hiding...

Long story short: Lost job and have been dealing with the fallout ever since.

So yeah, fun times. How's everyone else?

Yeah, even as far back as the early 80's I found this out with the old C64, most retailers at that time would tell you that almost all of the returns were down to the PSU's blowing, due to the simple fact of switching it on and off so many times...

It wasn't until folk started making or buying reset switches that enabled you to reset so called "reset proof" games that this problem regarding the C64 died out...

Pretty much meshes with what I've observed over the years too

[amigadave]

Mattathias stalled ages ago.  I'm now on the NatAmi team because it would be easier to make a new computer to run AmosPro on than it would be to make AmosPro run on the NG Amigas without an emulator.

The most programming I've done in the past month has been helping Cammy with her adventure game engine in AmigaE.

I'm on many Amiga-related teams including MUIBuilder (though I don't know how MUI works), AROS (because it looks like the least common denominator of all Amiga-like OSs), and NatAmi (because I want to run Classic Amiga software).  I haven't done much for any of them and wonder if I ever will.

It's hard being unemployed and wondering if my next paycheck will ever come.

I have seen you around many projects and forum sites and appreciate your views on many topics and your choices of which projects to join and work on.  If I ever make it to Minnesota, I will try to look you up and say hi.  If you ever visit Calif. I hope you do the same.  I am sorry to read that Matthias has stalled, but understand the reasons and I am glad that you are part of the Natami team.  

Although the Natami is behind schedule and gets criticized for being too ambitious, or unrealistic by some people, I think that it will succeed and become a great product some day.  I think it has a good chance to become the fastest Amiga clone and add some very useful features to the original Amiga design.  I am looking forward to seeing the faster blitter and SuperAGA, plus the other speed enhancements and increased RAM capabilities that the Natami will bring to what will essentially be a new Classic Amiga in the truest sense of the word.

Also, congratulations and thanks for your work with Cammy on her AmigaE coding.  She is another one of my favorite Amiga people.

Edit:  Sorry to hear about your unemployment situation.  I have been unemployed for about 4 years now, due to a bad back and failed back surgery that made it worse, but I am hoping a second surgery will improve my condition, so I can get back to some kind of work.  I hope you find some employment, or self employment opportunity that you enjoy and meets your income requirements.  Times are hard for almost everyone I know right now.

[SamuraiCrow]

I have seen you around many projects and forum sites and appreciate your views on many topics and your choices of which projects to join and work on.  If I ever make it to Minnesota, I will try to look you up and say hi.  If you ever visit Calif. I hope you do the same.  I am sorry to read that Matthias has stalled, but understand the reasons and I am glad that you are part of the Natami team.

Ok.  If I ever make it out to California, I'll let you know I'm coming.  Whether it be to a LLVM DevMeeting or AmiWest.

Although the Natami is behind schedule and gets criticized for being too ambitious, or unrealistic by some people, I think that it will succeed and become a great product some day.  I think it has a good chance to become the fastest Amiga clone and add some very useful features to the original Amiga design.  I am looking forward to seeing the faster blitter and SuperAGA, plus the other speed enhancements and increased RAM capabilities that the Natami will bring to what will essentially be a new Classic Amiga in the truest sense of the word.

Thanks!  With any project that is hobbyist by nature, a schedule is hard to come by but we hope to come out with something soon.

Also, congratulations and thanks for your work with Cammy on her AmigaE coding.  She is another one of my favorite Amiga people.

Yeah.  She's ahead of me when it comes to MUI now.  This adventure game engine is proving to be a good exercise in object-oriented programming even if it is text-based.

Edit:  Sorry to hear about your unemployment situation.  I have been unemployed for about 4 years now, due to a bad back and failed back surgery that made it worse, but I am hoping a second surgery will improve my condition, so I can get back to some kind of work.  I hope you find some employment, or self employment opportunity that you enjoy and meets your income requirements.  Times are hard for almost everyone I know right now.

It's been 3 years for me, but in my case it was just graduating during a recession that did it.  Blessings on your second back surgery.

[Iggy]

Wow scary times to be in this situation guys (the leander, SamuraiCrow, AmigaDave).

I was primarily working for myself and doing some subcontracting, but I recently took a three day a week job at a local casino to help fill out the lean periods between jobs.

The current.perpetual stagnate economy and the competition for available jobs combine to make a bad situation even worse.

I wish all you guys the best. I've followed each of your posts and believe each of you to be intelligent capable individuals.

Hopefully in each of your cases, things will turn around.

BTW - SamuraiCrow, please tell me you're not carrying giant student loan debts (like the ones I will probably carry with me to my grave).

[SamuraiCrow]

BTW - SamuraiCrow, please tell me you're not carrying giant student loan debts (like the ones I will probably carry with me to my grave).

I owe about $3000 in student loan debt right now so I'm not too bad.  My programming partner Sidewinder, has his masters' degree in computer science and is in worse shape than I am.  He also has a wife and child.  His wife has student debt as well.

[Iggy]

I owe about $3000 in student loan debt right now so I'm not too bad.  My programming partner Sidewinder, has his masters' degree in computer science and is in worse shape than I am.  He also has a wife and child.  His wife has student debt as well.

Nope, that's not too painful. With interest, I'm up to about$40K.
Frankly, when I see anything from my Alma Mater I want to flip them the Fickle Finger of Fate.

[the_leander]

Wow scary times to be in this situation guys (the leander, SamuraiCrow, AmigaDave).

I was primarily working for myself and doing some subcontracting, but I recently took a three day a week job at a local casino to help fill out the lean periods between jobs.

The current.perpetual stagnate economy and the competition for available jobs combine to make a bad situation even worse.

I wish all you guys the best. I've followed each of your posts and believe each of you to be intelligent capable individuals.

Hopefully in each of your cases, things will turn around.

Ditto to the other lads, and thanks. Tbh as much as I enjoyed the work within my chosen industry I've come to the conclusion that there are simply too many naughty boys and girls running companies in it to hold out much hope of avoiding a repeat of my current situation. Time to force the implementation of my grand plan a little ahead of schedule.

[Iggy]

Time to force the implementation of my grand plan a little ahead of schedule.

Hopefully that doesn't have anything to do with ruling the world, Alan.

Near as I can tell, thanks to the Global recession and throat cutting competition the only recourse is to seriously hustle.

I'm not relying on a plan anymore. I'm selling what I've got, wherever I can, too the best prospects (not necessarily the highest bidder).

[the_leander]

Hopefully that doesn't have anything to do with ruling the world, Alan.

I'm British, it's in my nature

Near as I can tell, thanks to the Global recession and throat cutting competition the only recourse is to seriously hustle.

Tell me about it. Although I think in some respects some of my problems could have been avoided if I'd done a little more research into who I ended up working for. Guess as with so many other things in life, it's about finding a happy medium.

I'm not relying on a plan anymore. I'm selling what I've got, wherever I can, too the best prospects (not necessarily the highest bidder).

Good man.

[adz]

Near as I can tell, thanks to the Global recession and throat cutting competition the only recourse is to seriously hustle.

Who said we're in a recession? My gubberment sez evryfing is fine?

I'm British, it's in my nature

Good to see you're still around Alan, don't like it when you go AWOL...

[Iggy]

Good man.

Thanks, but its more of an evolution made necessary by external events. I would much rather pursue opportunities in areas I have more interest in.

I just can't afford to.

Thank god I've still got my personal interests (like following the developments in our market). What helps keep me positive allows me to focus on everything as a whole.

[Xanaa]

I try to use mine at least once a week maybe more now but I really need to learn more in commands in  CLI box and such. I have a 1200 and a 2000 both very good machines