Is Natami Vapourware?

[takemehomegrandma]

WOAH WOAH hang on a minute. Maybe Morphos has the luxury of using established hardware like Apple Macs but remember NatAmi are not just making software for established hardware but they are actually making the hardware itself. It's a bit different so maybe you should stop comparing NatAmi to Morphos and start giving encouragement.

Jesus i'm starting to sound like a NatAmi zealot   :eek:

What has MorphOS got to do with anything?

Look, all I'm saying is that the Natami is a *very* ambitious project (with a custom CPU and everything), and that I (and probably many others) have been "let down" by so many other promising developments that has been *half* as "ambitious" as this one is. I'm not saying that Natami will fail, I don't want it to fail, but most projects *do* in fact fail, some at a point even further down the road than Natami is now. I do like to read the progress reports, it sounds promising and all, but so did so many other projects as well. So I'll consider it being real and tangible only when it's out for sale. Until that happens I'll not invest any "emotional capital" into this one.

Anyway, I have made my point regarding this and won't post further. I just wanted to respond to your strange and out of the air "compare Natami with MorphOS" statements. I never did that. Why would I?

[takemehomegrandma]

We have no funds to cancel! :-D

:lol:

Well good for you!

[Kesa]

What has MorphOS got to do with anything?

Look, all I'm saying is that the Natami is a *very* ambitious project (with a custom CPU and everything), and that I (and probably many others) have been "let down" by so many other promising developments that has been *half* as "ambitious" as this one is. I'm not saying that Natami will fail, I don't want it to fail, but most projects *do* in fact fail, some at a point even further down the road than Natami is now. I do like to read the progress reports, it sounds promising and all, but so did so many other projects as well. So I'll consider it being real and tangible only when it's out for sale. Until that happens I'll not invest any "emotional capital" into this one.

Anyway, I have made my point regarding this and won't post further. I just wanted to respond to your strange and out of the air "compare Natami with MorphOS" statements. I never did that. Why would I?

Sorry, I was just assuming you were comparing the NatAmi to Morphos. Just looking at your avatar and your sig gives the impression of bias

I am only a recent addition to the Amiga community so i may not have been burnt like some others around here. But i can see lots of new things coming over the horizon such as the new kickstart, and constant advancements with Aros, that really have me excited. So i don't think being negative is the way to go. Once we start turning on each other the Amiga is doomed forever.

Why not post anymore in this thread? I wasn't attacking you i was just making a point so i'm sorry if i offended you. I'm not trolling

[digiflip]

well my 2 cents Duke Nukem forever was once vapourware ie been development over 10 years.

     The Team of Fpgaa Arcade is about 2 main people I believe Ie Mike J and Jakub which hopefully be out within the next few months if not sooner.


     Yet Natami team been in development nearly has long Has Jens Jens Schoenfeld's Clone A Ie around from 2004/5 .

[mikej]

Judging by what little information is on the FPGA Arcade site, I'm guessing it'll be something more like Minimig where it's a reimplementation of an A500 - NatAmi is more geared towards people who use or want to use a 68k Amiga for serious day-to-day computing. Not that there isn't overlap between the markets, but I'd think one hardly kills the prospects for the other.

I'm not going to get into Natami bashing here, it's a great project driven by some talented engineers.

I accept the comment about the lack of info on the FPGAArcade web site. We are currently developing a new web site. We have been busy producing the board and working on the firmware. I'm in china at the moment and have just send the 3rd revision data to manufacture.

/MikeJ

[Rodomoc]

Natami vapour? Only from an public availability standpoint. Obvious there is much development activity going on with this project. It is active as evidenced by their website postings. They are going for the gold when it comes to Amiga hardware implementation. As far as I know, their intent is to finish development of a 'phase 1' sort of board and offer it as a buyable product. Maybe the word vapour needs to be replaced with 'product in development'. So a great modern Amiga is in the works. And...a great FPGA based computer board for any other non-68K endevour.

[desiv]

There are working physical prototypes

If they had fully working boards, they would release it, don't you think?

I don't think you quite get the meaning of "prototypes."  :hammer:

desiv

[commodorejohn]

I accept the comment about the lack of info on the FPGAArcade web site. We are currently developing a new web site. We have been busy producing the board and working on the firmware. I'm in china at the moment and have just send the 3rd revision data to manufacture.

Yeah, that makes sense. Interesting to hear that it's actually quite an improvement - I'd kind of figured that it was more a general-purpose gamer-targeted multisystem from the description.

[runequester]

well my 2 cents Duke Nukem forever was once vapourware ie been development over 10 years.

     The Team of Fpgaa Arcade is about 2 main people I believe Ie Mike J and Jakub which hopefully be out within the next few months if not sooner.


     Yet Natami team been in development nearly has long Has Jens Jens Schoenfeld's Clone A Ie around from 2004/5 .

well, its also a more ambitious project in some ways. The aim is to surpass the original chipsets and processors rather than just emulate them, as well as provide some other neat bits (like floppy controller etc)

[digiflip]

who uses floppys in 2011, guess you ain't heard of flash drives and sd cards etc.

[JimS]

I think a lot of folks don't seem to realize that both the Natami and the Replay are labors of love by enthusiasts who have day jobs. By all rights the Amiga should have gone away in 1994 with Commodore. The fact that some folks want to make one today should amaze people into silence and just sit back and enjoy the show. I enjoy reading the play-by-play of the build process as it progresses here and elsewhere in the forums.

[digiflip]

well maybe if enough people love these products? new people will come to love them too eventually

[SamuraiCrow]

who uses floppys in 2011, guess you ain't heard of flash drives and sd cards etc.

The NatAmi MX board prototypes have a CompactFlash controller right on the motherboard.

[digiflip]

I suppose could use the floppy controller for the  HXc Flopppy but it bit expensive at 70 gb pounds and build time of 6 to 10 weeks I think.

[Franko]

NatAmi Rulez ok... Nuff said...

(Well it will when it gets released...)

[desiv]

who uses floppys in 2011, guess you ain't heard of flash drives and sd cards etc.

Yes, I've heard of those things you mention.  
For my retro computers, I use floppies frequently.
I use whdload also, but that's in addition to the floppies...

Just for the nostalgia...

desiv