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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2011, 06:06:13 AM »
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Who cares if an 'Amiga' is a commercial success? It doesn't matter now, the time when that mattered has long since past. The community now has control of the platform (Minimig + AROS), as long as I can obtain a computer I enjoy using I don't care if I can't buy it in a shop, and I don't care if the masses aren't interested. It's a hobby. If anyone has got delusions of grandeur, it's not those who still enjoy the classics, it's those people who think success is driven by how many units are sold.


+1 on this point.

WD Franko, It's amazing what a well placed chickenhead sticker can do.  "one 'ere, and one 'ere and another o'er 'ere".
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2011, 06:25:05 AM »
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+1 on this point.

WD Franko, It's amazing what a well placed chickenhead sticker can do.  "one 'ere, and one 'ere and another o'er 'ere".


Yup you can never have too many stickers... :)

 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2011, 07:09:28 AM »
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How many people have tried to bring anything to the table (including Genesi) only to get sick and tired of dealing with this rabid community and move their attentions elsewhere?


Actually, Genesi has persistently supported the AROS and MorphOS communities with time as well as money via MorphZone and Power2People and continues to do so.


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Are you so afraid of Amiga Inc actually producing anything that you're willing to suffer through getting nothing at all, or even worse, actively trying to destroy any chance they have of succeeding?


Maybe this is surprising to you but there are people on this forum who are not here because of the brand label that was put on their computer but because they have individual preferences regarding how hardware and software is supposed to behave.

These same people are first and foremost interested to buy products that fit their personal preferences on a technical level. If they cannot get those, why would they have a personal interest to see that anybody makes a profit off an 80s computer brand?
 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2011, 07:42:44 AM »
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I just don't understand the context of trashing Amiga Inc for trying to head in what -- at least -- I think is the right direction while pedantically defending "teh true Amiga".

Slapping a name-sticker to someelses product (with no Amiga-relevance) and than hoping to scam some investors into it is not what I'd call "heading in the right direction". O.k. that was 2000-2001 but neither Bill nor Barry got any smarter or honest than what they were back than.

Bout these tablets, well either they are iContain-Amiga, which mean they will only be rent-at-inflated-prices lowend stuff that just needed some (any) brand-sticker. Yes that would include McBill as it seems.

From what I understood NotC=USA got their Amiga-licence bypassing McBill (good move) and while it seems that they are prepared to invest a bit more effort there seem to do it in all the wrong way (the horrid keyboard-cases are the least thing I would like to return from the C64-A500 era).

Doing it that way they are also only targeting the retro-growd (just as slightly different part than Natami,Minimig or Jens' stuff).
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1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2011, 07:52:18 AM »
@Wayne and others selling/sold by the CUS of American Dream.

Lets get this pretence of these "added value" only in America product lines, being pushed to a "Global" audience as "World Wide" Amiga computers, when there not.

I don't care if its a mobile/tablet/pc or other goods available through "global sources" as this stuff with a different label is available in the U.K/Europe by much more reliable sources/support lines without the CUSA middle man and without the CUSA Hype and will do exactly the same for less cost. Should we start a branch called EUSA with the selling the same tat, as I am 100% positive there isn't anything here that cannot be copied.

My final beef with all this is the "Title", CUSA know they are an "American" business, their market is "America", no matter what resellers that can be brought on board, the business, the products, the goal is to turn a American business into a global brand using the Commodore and Amiga titles. That's it, end, nothing more....So why the attempt to bring the old community with them, why ?

Nostalgia ! Plain and simple. They are looking to "Sell" to people like me who would say "Oh I used to own an Amiga" without the hassle of building their own brand themselves.

Unfortunately they didn't pick a commodity brand that I seen brought back from the dead in my high street store, they picked a iconic computer brand and worse they try to sell on the basis of that "nostalgia" as a modern "Amiga" like experience.

Its insulting, its a con and its an small fry American computer shop, trying to sell in the "Big" world and frankly its insulting, I will go somewhere local.

When CUSA have a product thats called the "CUSA" something which does something nothing else can do, you might find that the world is a target, otherwise keep to CUSA to your local market and get CUSA the hell off Amiga.org forum.

As the Dragons would say "Its not a business and I am out!".

Shaz

PS Ive been a member for sometime now, if this continual marketing of CUSA continues, I think its time for me to go. I don't see any reason to believe that this just isn't a US lead attempt to scupper any future for a European based Amiga platform(s)
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2011, 08:23:09 AM »
And here another thought, call it xenophobic but, isn't it ironic, the CUSA is using a brand that the USA Gov. thought was some European based communist infiltration using cheap typewriters. Ironic, that the brand was founded during the suspicion and lies of the MacArthur era, now it receives the same treatment but the lies still sit state-side in both cases.
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2011, 08:27:58 AM »
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When CUSA have a product thats called the "CUSA" something which does something nothing else can do, you might find that the world is a target, otherwise keep to CUSA to your local market and get CUSA the hell off Amiga.org forum.

As the Dragons would say "Its not a business and I am out!".

Shaz)

Im finding it all a wee bit fishy to be honest when certain admis & mods who only a couple of months ago were more than happy to slate CUSA at every possible chance suddenly seem quite happy to start threads about them and say crap like give them a chance and I'm willing to buy a neat C64 case... :confused:

Wonder if Barry's been passing round the Coke Zero again... :D

Amazing what a giving some folk a soft drink can buy you... :(
 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2011, 08:32:36 AM »
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And here another thought, call it xenophobic


Not quite the word that came to my mind.

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but, isn't it ironic, the CUSA is using a brand that the USA Gov. thought was some European based communist infiltration using cheap typewriters. Ironic, that the brand was founded during the suspicion and lies of the MacArthur era, now it receives the same treatment but the lies still sit state-side in both cases.


It`s called the 'McCarthy era'.
 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2011, 08:40:14 AM »
@Wayne

I think that you should set back and relax because you make BAFs look rational. A regular Tablet, built around Google's Android having an Amiga sticker is not something really worthy. The Amiga brand with any advantages of its unique OS (at its time), the strong community it had and the dedicated software houses / developers is like the dead corpse you described without even a soul in it.
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How to open a beer.
« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2011, 08:47:42 AM »
How to use a bottle opener to open a bottle of beer :pint:

Step 1. Place your thumb near the lip. Grip the bottle opener as you  position your thumb near the bottom of the lip while your fingers hold  the rest of the handle.

Step 2. Position the lip under the lip. Hold the bottle opener on an  angle so that the bottom part of the lip can hook onto the lower part of  the bottle cap. At the same time use your other hand to hold the bottle  and keep it in place.

Step 3. Pull off with an upward force. Once hooked, pull with pressure  with the bottle opener. The curved end of the bottle opener near the  upper part of the lip will press against the upper portion of the crown  while the other end that was hooked to its lower part will bend it until  the bottle opener can easily pull it off from the mouth of the bottle. Make sure to hold the bottle steady or you will spill your valuable liquid.

Drink beer! :)
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2011, 10:38:55 AM »
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I think I've secured a pic of the mainboard...!

http://s1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa424/gertsy2000/?action=view¤t=Amiga7000board.jpg
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2011, 10:42:47 AM »
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I would buy an ARM based tablet with AmigaOS running native, stable and updated but NOT from Amiga Inc. I will not support those that steal from their customers, business partners and employees. It looks like they are still trying to kill AmigaOS and force feed us another OS and generic hardware with an Amiga sticker on it. We are too smart for this! If it was any other company but Amiga Inc. we might give them the benefit of the doubt. Boycott Amiga Inc.!

when hyperion won the os4 but not the amiga inc name, it was pretty much game over, as i see it. the things that have happen latley is of no shock. i would advice people to enjoy their classic a1200 or a4000, for what it is. everything computing today is windows or macosx, thats how it is and will be. amiga as we know it is dead, been since the last failed attempt in 2001 and amigaone.
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2011, 11:12:34 AM »
7 points to bloodline for almost picking the mystery mainboard. 12 months out though.

But an IBM Z196 processor in a personal computer would be something to behold.!
 

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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2011, 11:14:01 AM »
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Teaser 1


Teaser 2
Looks like good news to me :-)

I would quite happily purchase an Amiga branded tablet for less than £75 if it was android based and the specs were OK.

Amiga was and still is all about Multi-Media and today that Android (for a more open solution) or Apple  (a closed solution), at least in the mobile space.

And if they were to throw in a preloaded UAE port Amiga roms and few old Amiga games that played well on the device all the better.

Don't get me wrong I use and enjoy both classic Amiga hardware and next gen OS4 and Minimig solutions for playing my old games and running my old software, but OS4/MorphOS or a FPGA hardware solution is never going to be a mainstream product
the world has moved on for better or worse.

I don't see the point in getting upset when someone tries to do something positive, it results in a product you don't like or need don't by it and please don't wine about bad it is that you don't want one.
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2011, 11:15:42 AM »
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7 points to bloodline for almost picking the mystery mainboard. 12 months out though.

But an IBM Z196 processor in a personal computer would be something to behold.!


Ah, I just saw this. It's a ZX81 for sure. Gotta love those curved traces...
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Re: OOOOOOO….what could THIS be
« Reply #74 from previous page: April 03, 2011, 12:34:57 PM »
Sorry wayne, but i completely disagree.

Just because the Amiga isn't a commercial success in this day and age, doesn't mean people who still enjoy AmigaOS (and/or its clones) should be cockahoop because some company has installed an Amiga wallpaper on a generic no-brand bargain bin Android tablet and charged a premium for the service.

Step in the right direction, my ass.

BTW, my AmigaOne has had more use in the 7 years i've owned it than any of the other computers i've had in that time. It represents good value to me from that point of view, and I enjoy using it more than ever. Whether or not its dead as a viable commercial platform is irrelevant to me.
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