CommodoreUSA Partners with Disney

[brenry]

There will be a app store to purchase C64 software. I suspect it won't take too long before new games/apps to appear after it's opening. I know, it's a foreign idea around here that Devs can make money from their work. Pathetic pirates are not the target market..

Dammy you missed the point.  People have old treasured disks; geneology, ansi art they may had made as a kid, old letters / documents.  that stuff can't be bought.  And games / programs they already own ?

You are missing the point of nostalgia and just back up everyone's view on how they are approaching this.  It's a mod kit, and you said yourself.. you don't give a damn about people.. its about trying to ca$h in on the namebrand.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Their money would be better spent hiring Franko to promote their product than disney.

 

:roflmao:

At least then you would have the C= community willing to listen.  You are just continuing to make enemies.  The same people who post on that forum were probably paid to say stuff like that as well on the facebook page.  They.. well.. they don't sound like real people.

Oh, yeah... we're paid. I got a 15% share in C=USA for saying that I like their plans. It's not too late for you to get some shares too :lol:

And I also got Olivia Wilde's number :lol:. I'm taking her out for dinner :lol:

[dammy]

Dammy you missed the point.  People have old treasured disks; geneology, ansi art they may had made as a kid, old letters / documents.  that stuff can't be bought.  And games / programs they already own ?

Check out flea markets, they may have a C64 and disk drive.  If there is enough of a demand, I'm sure either C=USA or some other company will make a  USB 5.25" disk drive or cart reader.

You are missing the point of nostalgia and just back up everyone's view on how they are approaching this.  It's a mod kit, and you said yourself.. you don't give a damn about people.. its about trying to ca$h in on the namebrand.

I already brought up these subjects months ago actually.  Cheapest way is to go to the online app store and repurchase the game.  I haven't seen the pricing yet, but I suspect the pricing to be pretty reasonable.  I have a feeling if C=USA did support those old C64 media, it would have driven the price up too high.  It's a question on how much it will cost to buy it from online app store vs paying for support hardware to reuse those old games.

[rebraist]

today amiga is a pc.
we can like it or not, but it's a pc.
30 years ago it was a mc68k based computer.
the main peculiarity of the "30 years ago amiga" was its custom chips.
30 years are passed and no one develops hardware that way, except console producers.
why? because people buys it anyway and it's cheap to develop.
think to the x1000 or the sam boards: they're pcs too. yes, they have ppc cpus and not intel compatible ones, but they're pcs.
why? because as before they're cheaper to produce than reinventing something new again.
why don't we like amiga sticker on pc case? because we've lived our last 30 years thinking to the past, living in the past. i say it once again: no more goonies, roanald reagan or nwobhm. 80s are ended.
Now we can like a ppc pc board and install our os4 or old mac and use morphos and it's totally good! What we have to understand is that world has gone beyond our "custom chipset" or "draggable screens". And if someone buys or has a licence to do it (respecting copyrights or trademarks), he can call every machine he has amiga, tandy, dragon1000, spectrum, hal9000 or whatever he likes!

[brenry]

dammy: I have no intention of buying crap from cussa.

I don't know if you do anything outside amiga... But this seems like a big flashback from a couple years ago of David Foley who manufactored those UltraCades that went like $3000 that was just a pc, vga monitor, and a cheap ass wooden arcade frame. He was charging $300 per expansion modual for like 15 MAME roms.  The whole thing was a joke as he previously tried to (C) the MAME name when he had nothing to do with the project. He had no respect in the BYOAC community.

Barry is the new David R. Foley in the emulation world.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Barry is the new David R. Foley in the emulation world.

That's curious to say because

a)you know very little of his plans

b)Barry isn't really doing anything to the emulation world but giving them new machines to run on, if you like them. Hell, he'll maybe even be providing extra source of income for old/new C= and Amiga devs.

[gertsy]

c) Brenry is in fact __________

[dammy]

dammy: I have no intention of buying crap from cussa.

Then why are you posting on commodore-amiga.org?  Or on this thread with a throw away account?

[gertsy]

'Cummon Franko.  Step out from behind that mask.....
LOL
:banana:  Who is brenry  :banana:

[Khephren]

today amiga is a pc.
Erm, how again? OS dictates type. OS has dictated type since people expected to run the same software on a future iteration of a computing product.

we can like it or not, but it's a pc.
You can keep saying it, doesn't make it true.

30 years ago it was a mc68k based computer.
Amiga was not around in 1981

the main peculiarity of the "30 years ago amiga" was its custom chips.
And a full multitasking GUI? Or were you just a games player?

think to the x1000 or the sam boards: they're pcs too. yes, they have ppc cpus and not intel compatible ones, but they're pcs.
see above. The definition of 'PC' for the man in the street is intel based running a windows OS. That's why 'PC format' and magazines like it never cover mac, BSD, etc.

living in the past. i say it once again: no more goonies, roanald reagan or nwobhm. 80s are ended.
Yes, well done for talking down to people. We really appreciate that.Considering both AROS and Morphos are based on living in the past too, as they are continuations on AmigaOS.

Now we can like a ppc pc board and install our os4 or old mac and use morphos and it's totally good! What we have to understand is that world has gone beyond our "custom chipset" or "draggable screens". And if someone buys or has a licence to do it (respecting copyrights or trademarks), he can call every machine he has amiga, tandy, dragon1000, spectrum, hal9000 or whatever he likes!

So your saying Amiga.org, which is dedicated to the Amiga computer and derivitives, should cover anything with an Amiga sticker on it?
I don't often say this sort of thing, but You really are talking shite, and you aught to question why you are on here.

[TheBilgeRat]

'Cummon Franko.  Step out from behind that mask.....
LOL
:banana:  Who is brenry  :banana:

I think its the same individual from moobunny who is trying a "softer" approach this time around.

lame.

[persia]

Barry's got a good understanding of marketing.  Look at how he pitches a paid advert on a DVD of a film that frankly didn't make the splash it should have.  It's pitched as "co-branding."  Winning means never having to say you're sorry over any exaggeration...

[gertsy]

I think its the same individual from moobunny who is trying a "softer" approach this time around.

lame.

I'll prefer to call him Franko.  LOL.
At least until Franko gives me the "Bollocks!" so to speak.

[gertsy]

Hmm LOL, Just found a recent quote of mine plagiarised on moobunny.
Is that a complement or an insult?

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/188785.shtml

whoops double post.....

[danwood]

So your saying Amiga.org, which is dedicated to the Amiga computer and derivitives, should cover anything with an Amiga sticker on it?
I don't often say this sort of thing, but You really are talking shite, and you aught to question why you are on here.

+1

I must say, the CUSA fanboys/employees can take the piss all they like about "it's not a religion", "we're doing something with the 'amiga'", but as someone who loved the Amiga, and had my life changed by it in many ways, what they are doing breaks my heart.  Yeah yeah it's just a "computer" but it meant a lot to many of us, hence our interest in it almost 2 decades after it died commercially, and it does upset a lot of us to see it's name being used on anything from shitty PCs you'd find in Aldi/Lidl to sub $100 no-brand tablets, it cheapens it and is a very undignified use of a brand that meant so much so many of us.

Especially as I'm known on some forums as a long time Amiga fan, and recently have had people wondering why I like the Amiga when they see stuff like those tablets, and think that represents the Amiga today, and I have to explain that I have no association or any love for the current tat that's being branded "Amiga".  Some of the younger guys who don't remember/know how powerful and ground-breaking the Amiga was, now think Amiga is a brand like NOK or Alba that you see on supermarket sold TVs etc, how sickening.

[danwood]

Barry's got a good understanding of marketing.  Look at how he pitches a paid advert on a DVD of a film that frankly didn't make the splash it should have.  It's pitched as "co-branding."  Winning means never having to say you're sorry over any exaggeration...

I think that much is obvious to anyone who even did business skills as an 11 year old at school.  Many bigger companies have tried to market Commodore PCs since the 1990s, I can count, Escom, Tulip, Commodore Gaming to name a few, all of which have failed.

Fact is you can't go up against the likes of Dell etc. who can afford little margins because they have huge customer bases.  

Plus I keep hearing from people such as Dammy that Barry/CUSA isn't aiming at the "retro market" as such, but outside of it, who on earth would want a PC on their desk that looked like something from 30 years ago?

The brown breadbox C64 even looked outdated by 1987 when it was replaced with the C64C.  Who are these hundreds of thousands of customers he's guaranteed?  Not retro enthusiasts, the general computer buying audience, businesses?  Sorry but I just can't see anyone outside maybe a few hundred Commodore fans (who CUSA have mostly managed to piss off) buying this?

I've asked the question around 10 times now on here but never can seem to get an answer to the above question.

Personally I think they over-estimate people's interest in "retro" gear, sure people get dewy eyed over the C64 and Amiga, but actually buying something today and reminiscing fondly about it is two different things.  I can't imagine most people would want to own a c64 look-a-like in 2011 anymore than they'd like to wear the fashion they were wearing in 1983 today.