Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!

[XDelusion]

God, perfection...

Mysteries to my mind.

So I listen or try to listen to that still small voice within. It has all the wisdom a million years of trial & error could never compete with.

To bad my ego is to busy screaming, trying to drive that voice out. I ME MINE I ME MINE.
Oh and the hustle & bustle in the world around me...

please I wisper, be still, come here, sit beside Take a load off...

[Iggy]

Science only strengthens my belief in the unseen (Which is all faith is really).

Absolutely, science keeps pointing to truths that reinforce my belief.

For instance, the old evolutionary model that insists on "missing links"? Doesn't seem to work that way. Organisms change in "jumps".
Fur or feathers, but NO intermediate stage.
Birds evolving four chambered hearts and warm blooded metabolisms independently of mammals.
Just studying biology you have to wonder at the obvious, recurrent similarities even in unrelated organisms.
This is not just parallel evolution, there's something inherent to it that defies explanation via random events.

[Franko]

As most of you will have probably gathered by now I don't believe in the existence of this thing/person/entity called Gawd, but if I ever met him (and that's one hell of a big if) I'd convince him that he was just a figment of my imagination and nip his head until he disappeared in a cloud of purple smoke up his own rear end...

Only thing I believe in are Amigas, (and squirrels) everything else is just a poor imitation and probably doesn't even exist anyway, in fact I think this internet wotnot is just all in me mind and I'm really just talking to my own wee voices in my head here... (get's a bit crowded sometimes though...)

(PS:nearly forgot I believe in Vindaloos too, they're the best...

Anyone here actually met this Gawd geezer anyway...

[XDelusion]

It's amusing how much of what we are "discoverying" now, was recorded in the Vedas thoughsands of years ago.

And I love how ancient cultures who were said to be animalistic cave men, could perctly map the globe & knew the motions of our universe, planets, stars, and all that is beyond site.

Evolution?

FRANKO: Only thing I believe in are Amigas, (and squirrels) everything else is just a poor imitation and probably doesn't even exist anyway.

Awesome!!

[nicholas]

God, perfection...

Mysteries to my mind.

So I listen or try to listen to that still small voice within. It has all the wisdom a million years of trial & error could never compete with.

To bad my ego is to busy screaming, trying to drive that voice out. I ME MINE I ME MINE.
Oh and the hustle & bustle in the world around me...

please I wisper, be still, come here, sit beside Take a load off...

In Arabic this is known as the "Jihad an-nafs", The Struggle Against The Self.

It is the most important obligatory duty of a Muslim and was described by our prophet as Al-Jihad al-Akbar, "The greatest of struggles".

Most of us humans fail spectacularly at it on a minute by minute basis.

[runequester]

Missed that series of books.
The idea looks grimmer than the plot synopsis of each book would indicate.

100,000 years of indentured servitude? Do they ever discuss why no uplifted species ever revolts against its sponsors?

I havent read them in a long time, so I forget. I seem to recall the story was mainly from the human perspective. I should dig them up again... been without good scifi for a while

[Iggy]

In Arabic this is known as the "Jihad an-nafs", The Struggle Against The Self.

It is the most important obligatory duty of a Muslim and was described by our prophet as Al-Jihad al-Akbar, "The greatest of struggles".

Most of us humans fail spectacularly at it on a minute by minute basis.

I have cut and pasted that to a text document for later reference because it addresses something that has troubled me about humanity for some time.
Thanks Nicholas.

[XDelusion]

nicholas: the true Jihad!

I'm familiar.

Peace be with you brother!

[nicholas]

Absolutely, science keeps pointing to truths that reinforce my belief.

For instance, the old evolutionary model that insists on "missing links"? Doesn't seem to work that way. Organisms change in "jumps".
Fur or feathers, but NO intermediate stage.
Birds evolving four chambered hearts and warm blooded metabolisms independently of mammals.
Just studying biology you have to wonder at the obvious, recurrent similarities even in unrelated organisms.
This is not just parallel evolution, there's something inherent to it that defies explanation via random events.

Indeed, perhaps you might like to read about the works of one of my favourite scientists/scholars from 800 years ago. Particularly his research on evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasir_al-Din_al-Tusi

[nicholas]

I have cut and pasted that to a text document for later reference because it addresses something that has troubled me about humanity for some time.
Thanks Nicholas.

You are welcome.

[nicholas]

nicholas: the true Jihad!

I'm familiar.

Peace be with you brother!

Wa alaykum asalaam akhi/And upon you be peace brother.

[Franko]

Need to get round to finishing a wee book I've been writing for about the past 8 years now it's working title is "The Last Lap Of The (Human) Race" (C), it's basically about how I see and observe life and the way Humanity is rounding the last bend in it's existence and hurtling towards the finish line into self made oblivion...

(Just wish me crayons would stop breaking and I could get it finished... )

[Iggy]

Indeed, perhaps you might like to read about the works of one of my favourite scientists/scholars from 800 years ago. Particularly his research on evolution.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasir_al-Din_al-Tusi

Wow, that floors me. Why do we give credit to Darwin? This contains a very concise description of how ecology and the organisms in it interact to create change/adaption.

"The organisms that can gain the new features faster are more variable. As a result,  they gain advantages over other creatures. [...] The bodies are changing  as a result of the internal and external interactions."

That is as true today, as when this scholar wrote this.

Again, thank you Nicholas.

[nicholas]

It's amusing how much of what we are "discoverying" now, was recorded in the Vedas thoughsands of years ago.

And I love how ancient cultures who were said to be animalistic cave men, could perctly map the globe & knew the motions of our universe, planets, stars, and all that is beyond site.

Evolution?

"Between plants and animals there is sponge and between animals and humans there is monkey." -
İbrahim Hakkı of Erzurum, 18th Century Ottoman Gnostic and Scientist

[nicholas]

Wow, that floors me. Why do we give credit to Darwin? This contains a very concise description of how ecology and the organisms in it interact to create change/adaption.

"The organisms that can gain the new features faster are more variable. As a result,  they gain advantages over other creatures. [...] The bodies are changing  as a result of the internal and external interactions."

That is as true today, as when this scholar wrote this.

Again, thank you Nicholas.

This is but one of many reasons I am no longer an atheist.

No need to thank me though, all praise belongs to the creator.

[Iggy]

"Between plants and animals there is sponge and between animals and humans there is monkey." -
İbrahim Hakkı of Erzurum, 18th Century Ottoman Gnostic and Scientist

There again, I wasn't aware that Gnosticism survived into the 18th century.
Truly you must be our Amigoid Morpheus Nicholas.

You a verifying a belief I've long held that we keep re-discovering things that were known in the past.