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Offline Vairn

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #164 from previous page: March 15, 2011, 10:43:47 PM »
The reactor was going to be turned off later this year, since it is the oldest one in japan. I guess they will just bring that date forward?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #165 on: March 15, 2011, 10:55:37 PM »
runequester: We're just being sarcastic if we suggest that science (as defined here) has no place. It's an inevitable part of having self awareness...

... but there is more to us that mere mind & emotion, trial & error.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #166 on: March 15, 2011, 10:56:56 PM »
Quote from: Franko;622037
Dunno which language you speak but if you had read and understood any of the posts I've made here you would know that I DON'T assume science nor everyone else has all the answers, methinks you must be on some strong medication there... :)

PS:try reading more slowly and understanding the words then you won't have to make posts that are totally wrong in their assumptions in future, either that or go to SpecSavers... :D

We all have our prophets Frank, some of us (like moi et Karlos) believe the last one died ~1400yrs ago.

There are others who have more recent personal "prophets".
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #167 on: March 15, 2011, 11:33:58 PM »
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Japan is a small place, and widespread contamination would be a serious concern. They can't just quarantine a 30 mile radius like they did in Russia.

Can't? If this gets worse and there is widespread contamination, what choice will they have?

Number two and closing on the number one position Fukushima Japan.

Whatever happened to the coverage of the volcanic eruption?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #168 on: March 15, 2011, 11:41:06 PM »
Oh, and might I ad that the universe is in perfect harmony and provides us with food & shelter (plus manna), just as it provides the animals (jobless bastards). It is man that is in discord, out of balance, not able to witness universal perfection because of pride, vanity, & a fEw other demons. The s ience of God is perfect, and we have choice. Live in accord with nature or rape it.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #169 on: March 15, 2011, 11:55:50 PM »
I keep telling our cats to get a job.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #170 on: March 16, 2011, 12:03:07 AM »
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I keep telling our cats to get a job.

It just occurred to me that one day we might have to compete with something like that.

Genetic engineering is becoming quite sophisticated. What's to prevent some seriously demented genetic engineer from trying to create our replacements in the workplace?

Would those creatures have rights or would they be processions?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #171 on: March 16, 2011, 12:09:51 AM »
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It just occurred to me that one day we might have to compete with something like that.

Genetic engineering is becoming quite sophisticated. What's to prevent some seriously demented genetic engineer from trying to create our replacements in the workplace?

Would those creatures have rights or would they be processions?


The cynic would say that if history is a guide, they'll receive rights as individuals 50 years later.

The optimist would say that we are sufficiently enlightened to grant them immediately.

The practical would go read Uplift again :)
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #172 on: March 16, 2011, 12:32:10 AM »
Missed that series of books.
The idea looks grimmer than the plot synopsis of each book would indicate.

100,000 years of indentured servitude? Do they ever discuss why no uplifted species ever revolts against its sponsors?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #173 on: March 16, 2011, 12:39:17 AM »
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Oh, and might I ad that the universe is in perfect harmony and provides us with food & shelter (plus manna), just as it provides the animals (jobless bastards). It is man that is in discord, out of balance, not able to witness universal perfection because of pride, vanity, & a fEw other demons. The s ience of God is perfect, and we have choice. Live in accord with nature or rape it.


+1

"God doesn't play dice"..... ;)
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #174 on: March 16, 2011, 12:44:01 AM »
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+1

"God doesn't play dice"..... ;)

Heisenberg states otherwise.

People that think they understand the nature, intent, or thoughts of God are delusional.

However, Xdelusion is very correct about living with nature. The ecosystem requires it or one day your species gets taken out. This is the VERY real action of evolution. These vast majority of plants and animal species that have existed exist no more.
Almost all humans live in discord with their natural environments. And no science will rectify this. As such, is it any surprise that all "civilizations" see the seed of man's destruction in his own self-absorbed nature?
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #175 on: March 16, 2011, 12:51:46 AM »
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Heisenberg states otherwise.

People that think they understand the nature, intent, or thoughts of God are delusional.


Anyone who claims that they know what God *is*, is delusional.

Not even prophets have that knowledge.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #176 on: March 16, 2011, 12:57:43 AM »
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@ rebraist

Have to mostly disagree with you when it comes to the human race...

Yes the human race can make and create wonderful things but at the same time they are the most destructive and self serving creatures on this planet...

Who started all these wars... the human race... :(

Who kills each other for money, land, power, greed, drugs or even sometimes just for the sheer hell of it... the human race... :(

Who destroys books & knowledge written by some of the wisest people of their times... the human race... :(

I could go on for ever giving you endless negative examples of why I'm so cynical about the human race, but your wrong when you say it's "fear that speaks for us" in my case I have nothing to fear from the anything that happens in this world not even death itself...

I accepted a long time ago that death is just a part of life and there is nothing to fear from it, so to me until that time comes I just make sure that I enjoy everything in life good or bad and while all the bad things that happen in the world go on, whether caused by man or caused by nature there is no point in worrying about them... :)

Just enjoy everything you do in life and make the best of whatever situation you find yourself in, as soon enough we all leave this craziest of creations that we call life... :)


Hi,

@Franko,

I tell my kids that the only monsters in life are people.

I also tell them to enjoy death because it only comes once in life.

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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #177 on: March 16, 2011, 01:01:44 AM »
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Anyone who claims that they know what God *is*, is delusional.

Not even prophets have that knowledge.

Absolutely, we are all just men.
And yet it seems impossible for God not to exist.
Anything that can not be dis-proven is likely to have its basis in truth.
Nothing I have ever learned from any scientific discipline has ever challenged that fact.
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #178 on: March 16, 2011, 01:05:38 AM »
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Absolutely, we are all just men.
And yet it seems impossible for God not to exist.
Anything that can not be dis-proven is likely to have its basis in truth.
Nothing I have ever learned from any scientific discipline has ever challenged that fact.


Science only strengthens my belief in the unseen (Which is all faith is really).
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Re: Get off the beach! Tsunami coming!
« Reply #179 on: March 16, 2011, 01:09:06 AM »
God, perfection...

Mysteries to my mind.

So I listen or try to listen to that still small voice within. It has all the wisdom a million years of trial & error could never compete with.

To bad my ego is to busy screaming, trying to drive that voice out. I ME MINE I ME MINE.
Oh and the hustle & bustle in the world around me...

please I wisper, be still, come here, sit beside Take a load off...
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