News on the X1000!

[Franko]

@Franko
They had some trouble with emails initially, a few addresses might have been lost.
I receive the emails all the time, maybe you could try signing up again (if you use more than one email address, try submitting a new/different one).
Soon a new tech brief should be out, about the upgraded Xmos subsystem (based on a dual core chip) maybe there are updates on the interconnections as well.

Trevor just PMd me and has promised to check it out and put me on the updates list...

[DAX]

@Franko
Glad to hear

@TMHG
everyone's welcome

[number6]

@klx300r & DAX


Please keep your meta-discussions about *who* you think *should be allowed* to post *what* and *where* to "TOS.net", OK?

If you're referring to AW with your "TOS.net", then I'll take this opportunity to genuinely praise you for this highly motivational post.
After wegster and I worked so hard to create exactly what you asked for in opening up the site to all people...this is the thanks we get. Nice. Thanks for this!

#6

[jorkany]

So the speculations of yet another delay is now officially confirmed...?

A-eon had already confirmed a delay to 2nd quarter for the beta boards a few days ago.

Funny thing is how the people who were saying "give 'em until the end of March" when the last delay was announced are now backslapping about the explanation for this new delay. I wonder what it will be next time, around June?

[mongo]

Onboard sound these days can be quite reasonable and will often be better than older dedicated solutions. Having said this though I cant say I know anything about what sound is being used for x1000.

As for me wondering why a south bridge is neeed it appears PA6T has no intergrated pci controllers which probably plays a large part.

SB600 gives you PATA, SATA, Audio, USB, PCI, RTC, LPC Bus and more. All of which the PA6T doesn't have.

[jorkany]

Jorkany is one of the two people in the world who looks at Moobunny as a reliable and up to date site for information and intelligent discussions!

I have to admit I LOL'd at this.

[fishy_fiz]

Yeah, after looking further into it, it appears PA6T has very limited ondie functionality. Im surprised it even has the moniker of a SoC. Not saying this is a bad thing (or good for that matter), it's just an observation.
I also noticed while doing a bit of research that its Wikipedia page is one of the few places that rates it so low in regards to power consumption. Most other sources rate it at roughly 4x the consumption its Wikipedia page says. (including some tech. sites that have had hands on experience).
Makes no difference to me at the end of the day though, but being that Im interested in hardware I'd be curious to get some real details on it.

[fishy_fiz]

Jorkany is one of the two people in the world who looks at Moobunny as a reliable and up to date site for information and intelligent discussions!

One thing that moobunny does do well though is to demonstrate just how screwed up this community has become  
New to Amiga ? Want a fair representation of Amiga in it's current day guise ? Simply read moobunny for 10 minutes. It wont tell you much about the actual system, but it'll give you good insight into the community   The funny thing is that you could call moobunny a parody, or an accurate representation and both would be equally true

[Norway]

So the speculations of yet another delay is now officially confirmed...?

Yes, just like it is confirmed that you are a Troll

[takemehomegrandma]

If you're referring to AW with your "TOS.net", then I'll take this opportunity to genuinely praise you for this highly motivational post.
After wegster and I worked so hard to create exactly what you asked for in opening up the site to all people...this is the thanks we get. Nice. Thanks for this!

#6

Yes I was referring to AW.net as "TOS.net", because that site seems to be more about discussing the Terms Of Service than about discussing Amiga (and flavors). Every other thread (and poll for that matter) seems to be started by some crybaby moaning "Moderators, help, someone is saying something I don't approve of, why are people allowed to make posts I don't like, boohooo" and such. Outright painful to see, and I guess it's a long-lasting hangover from "the MikeyC-days", but it pictures everything that's wrong with that part (OS4) of the community, and I'm so glad that I left it several years ago. It's crazy! But it would be even better if the TOS-kind of meta discussions *would be kept* on the site where they were invented, instead of having them dragged over here, because I have a feeling that people here are more interested in discussing the *Amiga* (and flavors) than *who* should be allowed to post *what* and *where*!

Just my EUR 0.02...

[number6]

Yes I was referring to AW.net as "TOS.net", because that site seems to be more about discussing the Terms Of Service than about discussing Amiga (and flavors). Every other thread (and poll for that matter) seems to be started by some crybaby moaning "Moderators, help, someone is saying something I don't approve of, why are people allowed to make posts I don't like, boohooo" and such. Outright painful to see, and I guess it's a long-lasting hangover from "the MikeyC-days", but it pictures everything that's wrong with that part (OS4) of the community, and I'm so glad that I left it several years ago. It's crazy! But it would be even better if the TOS-kind of meta discussions *would be kept* on the site where they were invented, instead of having them dragged over here, because I have a feeling that people here are more interested in discussing the *Amiga* (and flavors) than *who* should be allowed to post *what* and *where*!

Just my EUR 0.02...

Check the a.org "views" for threads about strictly argumentative topics like "C=USA" and "iContain".
Compare with "views" on what you term amiga topics from the same time period to understand where people devote their posting efforts.
Still feel this has more to do with a website, than with human nature?

#6

[amoskodare]

Yes I was referring to AW.net as "TOS.net", because that site seems to be more about discussing the Terms Of Service than about discussing Amiga (and flavors). Every other thread (and poll for that matter) seems to be started by some crybaby moaning "Moderators, help, someone is saying something I don't approve of, why are people allowed to make posts I don't like, boohooo" and such. Outright painful to see, and I guess it's a long-lasting hangover from "the MikeyC-days", but it pictures everything that's wrong with that part (OS4) of the community, and I'm so glad that I left it several years ago. It's crazy! But it would be even better if the TOS-kind of meta discussions *would be kept* on the site where they were invented, instead of having them dragged over here, because I have a feeling that people here are more interested in discussing the *Amiga* (and flavors) than *who* should be allowed to post *what* and *where*!

Could you please keep your meta-discussion out of this thread, it's off topic, OK?

[fishy_fiz]

Yes I was referring to AW.net as "TOS.net", because that site seems to be more about discussing the Terms Of Service than about discussing Amiga (and flavors). Every other thread (and poll for that matter) seems to be started by some crybaby moaning "Moderators, help, someone is saying something I don't approve of, why are people allowed to make posts I don't like, boohooo" and such. Outright painful to see, and I guess it's a long-lasting hangover from "the MikeyC-days", but it pictures everything that's wrong with that part (OS4) of the community, and I'm so glad that I left it several years ago. It's crazy! But it would be even better if the TOS-kind of meta discussions *would be kept* on the site where they were invented, instead of having them dragged over here, because I have a feeling that people here are more interested in discussing the *Amiga* (and flavors) than *who* should be allowed to post *what* and *where*!

Just my EUR 0.02...

Sure, that's one side. The other side is that there are people who like to antagonise others on that site to get those types of reactions. It really has become a self fulfilling prophecy. Group "A" antagonises Group "B" until Group "A" gets the reaction they tried to get from Group "B". Group "A" then goes on to complain that they cant speak thier minds without Group "B" complaining about it. Group "A" effectively sets themselves up for something and then arent happy when they get the result theyre ultimately after.
Personally I find both groups equally annoying.

[Iggy]

The reassurance that the X1000 is on schedule and that A-eon has secured adequate PA6T and SB600 components is a relief.
I also received word today from Freescale that the P5020 and P5010 (the first e5500 cored products) are also on schedule for Q2 release along with an evaluation board (set at the usual high price of $4000).

So PPCs aren't dead and we've received some good news recently. I'm happy.

[ferrellsl]

The reassurance that the X1000 is on schedule and that A-eon has secured adequate PA6T and SB600 components is a relief.
I also received word today from Freescale that the P5020 and P5010 (the first e5500 cored products) are also on schedule for Q2 release along with an evaluation board (set at the usual high price of $4000).

So PPCs aren't dead and we've received some good news recently. I'm happy.

What schedule would that be that you're talking about?  The X1000 was supposed to released late last summer, then it slipped to the fall, now it's Spring of 2011 and it will continue to slip.  It's vaporware just like the last NG Amiga system that was offered by Adam Kowalczyk of ACK Controls back in 2007.  The X1000 is just a repeat of that fiasco and the specs for both systems are about equal.  The X1000 will be a failure even if it does see the light of day.  Not many people are willing to pay $3000-4000 USD for a systems that's already lagging by about 6 years.  The only thing special about the X1000 is the lack of performance for the price.

[HammerD]

What schedule would that be that you're talking about?  The X1000 was supposed to released late last summer, then it slipped to the fall, now it's Spring of 2011 and it will continue to slip.  It's vaporware just like the last NG Amiga system that was offered by Adam Kowalczyk of ACK Controls back in 2007.  The X1000 is just a repeat of that fiasco and the specs for both systems are about equal.  The X1000 will be a failure even if it does see the light of day.  Not many people are willing to pay $3000-4000 USD for a systems that's already lagging by about 6 years.  The only thing special about the X1000 is the lack of performance for the price.

Just to clarify here, the systems announced by Amiga Inc. to be produced/designed by ACK controls were contingent on funding from Amiga Inc. which never materialized.