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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #104 from previous page: March 10, 2011, 05:26:16 AM »
Quote from: lsmart;620810
Varisys isn´t the only customer, who is still using that chip, wich is far from outdated if you look beyond the PC and smartphone market. Apple has signed a contract when they bought PA-Semi. AEON won´t sell many X1000s, so Varisys could easily stock a supply that is enough for - say 5 years - enough time to plan for the furure.

No. There is no contract that requires Apple to continue to supply the PA6T.
Apple promised that it would be available till at least 2011 and possibly as long as 2013.
But PA Semi is a fab-less design firm and it appears that production of the processor has ceased.
No one knows how many of these chips remain, but all firm that formerly created hardware with the PA6T (including Varisys) have removed the processor fro their web pages and no longer recommend it for new designs.

And no one has a firm idea of where A-eon obtain their CPUs in the first place as there have been conflicting statements made about this.

Personally, I really like the design of the X10000, so I hope Trevor has a good supply of PA6Ts on hand.
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2011, 09:02:52 AM »
guys imho it's completely irrelevant if production has stopped or not. It has no impact on our market. There will never be enough sales of x1000 since it's niche market oriented, so I'm sure remaining chips stocks are more than sufficient
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2011, 12:52:48 PM »
X1000 progress report from Varisys.
Funny how this kind of stuff isn't on the A-eon site. They'll probably claim Adam Barnes violated their NDA or something!

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #107 on: March 10, 2011, 01:06:08 PM »
Isnt PA6T supposed to be a SoC ? Why would an additional south bridge (SB600) be required?
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #108 on: March 10, 2011, 01:20:23 PM »
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X1000 progress report from Varisys.
They'll probably claim Adam Barnes violated their NDA or something!


Not very likely, since A-Eon e-mail the update out to everyone who's signed up for e-mail updates.
 

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #109 on: March 10, 2011, 01:33:50 PM »
We always post to people who have registered with A-EON to receive news updates first.  The website is updated a little later.

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Edit: typo
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #110 on: March 10, 2011, 01:41:32 PM »
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We always post to people who have registered with A-EON to receive news updates first.  The website is updated a little later.

TrevorD

Edit: typo


I registered months ago and have never had one solitary single teeny weeny wee email from your site... :(
 

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #111 on: March 10, 2011, 01:47:27 PM »
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X1000 progress report from Varisys.
Funny how this kind of stuff isn't on the A-eon site. They'll probably claim Adam Barnes violated their NDA or something!

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #112 on: March 10, 2011, 01:47:58 PM »
Speaking of updates, I think new badges are needed. The current ones are outdated  :)
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2011, 01:53:27 PM »
@Franko
They had some trouble with emails initially, a few addresses might have been lost.
I receive the emails all the time, maybe you could try signing up again (if you use more than one email address, try submitting a new/different one).
Soon a new tech brief should be out, about the upgraded Xmos subsystem (based on a dual core chip) maybe there are updates on the interconnections as well.
 

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #114 on: March 10, 2011, 02:04:06 PM »
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Isnt PA6T supposed to be a SoC ? Why would an additional south bridge (SB600) be required?


PA6T isn't a SoC.
 

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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #115 on: March 10, 2011, 02:11:06 PM »
@klx300r & DAX
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huh..someone still forcing you to read this thread again:angry:..i thought you said nothing of interest to you here blah blah blah but yet you have such a 'passion' for any thread that is X1000 related
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Wow, X1000 related thread with 99% Mos and Classic only people, discussing it.
Ah well, any publicity is good publicity or as Oscar Wilde said "the only worst thing than being talked about, is...not being talked about" :-)


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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #116 on: March 10, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
Quote from: jorkany;620870
X1000 progress report from Varisys.
Funny how this kind of stuff isn't on the A-eon site. They'll probably claim Adam Barnes violated their NDA or something!

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/187370.shtml


So the speculations of yet another delay is now officially confirmed...?
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #117 on: March 10, 2011, 02:13:23 PM »
More news over at http://www.amigans.net: :)

Following  the AmigaOne X1000 Update article in the current edition of "Amiga  Future" magazine we asked Adam Barnes, the Technical Director of  Varisys, to provide an official Nemo progress report.

London, 10th March 2011

Following the AmigaOne X1000 Update article in the current edition  of "Amiga Future" magazine we asked Adam Barnes, the Technical Director  of Varisys, to provide an official Nemo progress report.

"From the horse's mouth"

We have had some problems with procurement of certain items for the  revision 2 Nemo board which delayed our production plan by about 4  weeks. The situation was not helped either by the Chinese New Year  celebrations.  However, I'm pleased to report that these difficulties  have now been overcome. We've had one remaining issue with supply of the  onboard PC99 audio connector. The best delivery we could obtain for the  existing connector type was a minimum order quantity of 10,000 pieces  and a lead time of 12 weeks. We had an option for a direct replacement  which has 6 jacks (enough for 5.1 analogue out) but unfortunately the  Taiwanese supplier did not respond to our communications. Our  alternative compromise plan was a triple jack which would support simple  stereo audio out through the back panel, with header pins on the board  to support 5.1 audio for users who want this feature. However, this was  not our preferred option and eventually we managed to source an almost  identical PC99 HD audio connector from an Italian company to satisfy our  demand for all the Beta test boards.

We already have enough PA6T CPUs in hand and we have also secured  supplies of the SB600 south bridge chip and various other long lead  parts, with deliveries of all due on or before the 15th of this month,  in sufficient quantities for the current schedule of revision 2 beta  test boards. Typically, the production time from full kit to assembled  boards is 10 days for small batches (the 5 off for approval). This  timescale will be confirmed once the kit is issued out for build. The  estimated lead time for the balance of beta test boards will be around  20-25 days based on standard PCB fabrication and assembly lead times.

Barnes also confirmed he was in the process of writing up a  technical brief of the new dual-core XMOS subsystem. This will include a  block diagram and pinouts so prospective end users can start working on  the XMOS side of things.

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I must admit though that I'd prefer a dedicated sound card in the X1000 over any onboard sound..I know my trusty M-Audio card is going into mine the minute I get mine:biglaugh:
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #118 on: March 10, 2011, 02:20:11 PM »
Onboard sound these days can be quite reasonable and will often be better than older dedicated solutions. Having said this though I cant say I know anything about what sound is being used for x1000.

As for me wondering why a south bridge is neeed it appears PA6T has no intergrated pci controllers which probably plays a large part.
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Re: News on the X1000!
« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2011, 02:24:41 PM »
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@Franko
They had some trouble with emails initially, a few addresses might have been lost.
I receive the emails all the time, maybe you could try signing up again (if you use more than one email address, try submitting a new/different one).
Soon a new tech brief should be out, about the upgraded Xmos subsystem (based on a dual core chip) maybe there are updates on the interconnections as well.


Trevor just PMd me and has promised to check it out and put me on the updates list... :)