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[adz]

4 TEH LULZ!!!

[fishy_fiz]

Here is another reason the iPad is a unique device for musicians. You can now control your mixer from the iPad. Set up a wireless connection to it and it becomes the control surface for the mixer.

Each musician on stage can have direct access to their own mix (not necessarily a good idea) as well as being able to walk to the back of the venue, hear the mix and adjust it there and then via the ipad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J1VolxZqdE

Ive seen you trying to tout the iPad as a good tool for musicians a bit in this thread, but personally I just dont get it. In over 20 years of being a musician, Ive never once thought to myself "damn, I wish there was yet another unnecessary device involved here". Guitar <->rack<->mixer<->amps kinda covers it all. To insert another device adds absolutely nothing.

[dentunes]

Ive seen you trying to tout the iPad as a good tool for musicians a bit in this thread, but personally I just dont get it. In over 20 years of being a musician, Ive never once thought to myself "damn, I wish there was yet another unnecessary device involved here". Guitar <->rack<->mixer<->amps kinda covers it all. To insert another device adds absolutely nothing.

So you have never recorded yourself playing? Not one demo tape? Never used chord charts?

Tablets aren't for everyone. You don't need it. That is cool. At least 15 million people so far have a different opinion to that. Thankfully we are all different like that.

[countzero]

So you have never recorded yourself playing? Not one demo tape?

I'ld rather let the mixer guy do his job than look like a desperate idiot up on stage showing off his i-fad (rather than making music).

Never used chord charts?

you don't need a chord chart if you know what you're doing.
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[Duce]

What Garageband on the iPad offers to musicians is quite unique and gives the non musician a way to be creative without ever having to have handled a musical instrument.  We could sit here all day debating the evil monopoly and closed source aspects of Apple products, but if said products get people doing creative things, it's win-win.

That being said, it probably won't hold much appeal for the professional and experienced musician, but it will most certainly give a lot of creativity to a lot of people that would have otherwise never considered creating music.  Just like Garageband on the Mac, Fruityloops, etc. did.

Just like Deluxe Paint did for the Amiga - guys that couldn't draw a happyface with a pen and paper, it opens up a lot of creative avenues.  I was one of those guys that had DPaint entirely rock my world when it came out, lol.  I found it completely liberating considering I had no artistic skills to that point, and while I am a musician and probably won't learn much from the iPad/Garageband experience, there's no doubt it will open up a lot of creativeness for the common man.

My 2 bits anyways.

[dentunes]

I'ld rather let the mixer guy do his job than look like a desperate idiot up on stage showing off his i-fad (rather than making music).



you don't need a chord chart if you know what you're doing.
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And of course every guitarist knows what they are doing! How stupid of me to think otherwise!

[fishy_fiz]

And of course every guitarist knows what they are doing! How stupid of me to think otherwise!

Q. How many guitarists does it take to change a light globe ?
A. Two. One to change he light globe and the other to say he could have done it better  

[bloodline]

What Garageband on the iPad offers to musicians is quite unique and gives the non musician a way to be creative without ever having to have handled a musical instrument.  We could sit here all day debating the evil monopoly and closed source aspects of Apple products, but if said products get people doing creative things, it's win-win.

I agree, any device that gets people creative rather than destructive is a good thing.

That being said, it probably won't hold much appeal for the professional and experienced musician, but it will most certainly give a lot of creativity to a lot of people that would have otherwise never considered creating music.  Just like Garageband on the Mac, Fruityloops, etc. did.

Actually, I could see myself using this to record demos, it saves out as a Logic compatible file so it would actually be my preferred way to record a demo!

Just like Deluxe Paint did for the Amiga - guys that couldn't draw a happyface with a pen and paper, it opens up a lot of creative avenues.  I was one of those guys that had DPaint entirely rock my world when it came out, lol.  I found it completely liberating considering I had no artistic skills to that point, and while I am a musician and probably won't learn much from the iPad/Garageband experience, there's no doubt it will open up a lot of creativeness for the common man.

And this is what we have forgotten after 25years! New technology brings creativity to a larger audience. The Amiga introduced me to music... Without the tracker I would never have been able to learn how to compose, arrange and even build my own sounds. My gut instinct is distrustful of the music-made-easy of the iPad, but I'm just being old and outdated

[bloodline]

Ive seen you trying to tout the iPad as a good tool for musicians a bit in this thread, but personally I just dont get it. In over 20 years of being a musician, Ive never once thought to myself "damn, I wish there was yet another unnecessary device involved here". Guitar <->rack<->mixer<->amps kinda covers it all. To insert another device adds absolutely nothing.

Well, I wouldn't let a guitarist near anything technical... That's why you have synth guys in a band

[Kesa]

And this is what we have forgotten after 25years! New technology brings creativity to a larger audience. The Amiga introduced me to music... Without the tracker I would never have been able to learn how to compose, arrange and even build my own sounds. My gut instinct is distrustful of the music-made-easy of the iPad, but I'm just being old and outdated

OK i know this may be off topic but....

Imho it depends on what you called music. There is a problem with music being made easy in that it becomes harder and harder to seperate the talent from the talentless. Singers who are tone deaf are suddenly good singers. Talentless popstars like brittney spears are now being called artists etc, etc. In that regard i think creation should be a challenge and not have it put into your lap by using an ipad.  

On the otherhand having a studio on your computer makes a lot of sense for a professional musican. Professional studios cost hundreds of thousands to buy or rent and having the equivalent on your pc for a few thousand dollars is a huge benefit to everyone involved. Why spend all that money on a professional tv studio when you can buy a video toaster A2000?

Sorry for going off topic

[Kesa]

Well, I wouldn't let a guitarist near anything technical... That's why you have synth guys in a band

Until your 'friends' unplug your keyboard and don't tell you and you find out an hour into the show

[the_leander]

There is a problem with music being made easy in that it becomes harder and harder to seperate the talent from the talentless.

No, it really doesn't. Whilst you can in fact polish a turd (mythbusters proved that beyond doubt) you're still left with shiny shit at the end of the day.

Genuinely talented artists will stand out. These days however you have to look outside of the mainstream to find much of that talent, which requires effort on the part of the listener. Seems not many people or at least too few are prepared to go to that effort.

[fishy_fiz]

Well, I wouldn't let a guitarist near anything technical... That's why you have synth guys in a band

I'd have to say an effects rack can be pretty darn technical. Sure, it may not have a shiney interface, but it has lots of buttons. I like buttons

[vidarh]

OK i know this may be off topic but....

Imho it depends on what you called music. There is a problem with music being made easy in that it becomes harder and harder to seperate the talent from the talentless. Singers who are tone deaf are suddenly good singers.

Personally, I don't care. I don't care if the result is because the artist is good or because he/she is good at picking tools that mask their weaknesses. What I care about is the end product. If the end product sounds good, then I'll listen.

If the whole thing was composed and arranged by an artificial intelligence, and all the artist did was press a button, then so be it.

All this does is *change* the skills and talent that is required to make works that stand out.

Then again, most of the music I like the most is largely electronic...

[Franko]

Personally, I don't care. I don't care if the result is because the artist is good or because he/she is good at picking tools that mask their weaknesses. What I care about is the end product. If the end product sounds good, then I'll listen.

If the whole thing was composed and arranged by an artificial intelligence, and all the artist did was press a button, then so be it.

All this does is *change* the skills and talent that is required to make works that stand out.

Then again, most of the music I like the most is largely electronic...

Gawd... what a sad & crazy statement to make...

How on earth could you class someone as an Artist if all they did "was press a button"...

What "skills and talent" does it take to carry out this monumental task of pressing a button in order to become an Artist...

Oh look, I just pressed the button for me front door bell and it's playing a wee tune, wow I must be an Artist...

Without going into my likes & dislikes of what I call music and artists, a simple fact remains if an Artist or Band cant play well live then they are indeed talentless...

[dentunes]

For a thread that started talking about an iPad it really has branched out into many different discussions from iTunes to guitar effects processors.

Love it!