My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[Dandy]

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This guy recognizes that x86 rules the world.
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Are you trying to imply here that Amiga should rule the world?
Get real...

[Dandy]

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There are people here who would be happy to run Linux with an emulator on an x86 box,
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Nothing hinders them to do so already today - they don't need C=USA for that.

[Dandy]

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he wants to sell people
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He wants to sell people?
Really???

I thought slave trade was illegal nowadays?

EDIT:
Or did you mean ""he wants to sell to people"?

[Manu]

He wants to sell people?
Really???

I thought slave trade was illegal nowadays?

EDIT:
Or did you mean ""he wants to sell to people"?

Dandy, why are you always late to the pary ?
Do you check internet forums only every 2:nd week ?

[Dandy]

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The X1000/OS4 project ... is not a viable option because there is no product near completion and doesn't look like it will be any time soon.
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And you are 100% sure that what he told you is the truth and not just spreading F.U.D. to tap some of AEon's potential customers?
If so, what is your confidence based upon?

[Dandy]

Dandy, why are you always late to the pary ?
Do you check internet forums only every 2:nd week ?

I have a life to live, you know...

[persia]

And you are 100% sure that what he told you is the truth and not just spreading F.U.D. to tap some of AEon's potential customers?
If so, what is your confidence based upon?

I think what he means is that from a commercial point of view X1000 isn't viable.  The fan base is there, but it's only at best a thousand or two and at worst in the hundreds.  There isn't enough profit there to keep a company going in the long run.  He wasn't commenting on the computer but rather on the economics of making the computer.

[bloodline]

I'm late to this party, mostly because I don't care enough about the religious wars to get involved again. But I have read through the thread now and I think only Kronos really raises any interesting questions.

Here's my tuppence worth... This guy, Barry, seems like a reasonable bloke with a bit of cash and bordom on his side. He doesn't know much about the retro commodore scene but thinks there might be a Market for some vintage styled equipment. He sees it as a fun little hobby to keep him busy and he clearly has motivation to make a product.
IMHO I think all the whingers here should just shut up and let him do something, you never know, he might make an intereting product... If he fails to deliver then, definitely give him crap for it...

As for the religious crap about "true Amiga", that got real old about 6 years ago. No current project has "direct lineage" with the old Commodore Amiga, and in fact all the current projects have shared code/ideas to the point that they are more closely relatedto each other than to the "One true Amiga"(tm)...

Take care!

[jorkany]

And you are 100% sure that what he told you is the truth and not just spreading F.U.D. to tap some of AEon's potential customers?

I guess that depends on whether Barry:

1) Doesn't give a crap about the existing Amiga community(s) and has his eye on selling to a much larger audience

or

2) Is so clued into the Amiga community and specifically the OS4 scene that he is even now conniving to steal away the dozen or so people who plan to buy an X1000.

Now, I don't have much of a business background but I do know how to make money, and I suspect Barry does too. Which is more profitable do you think, 1 or 2?

[save2600]

Here's my tuppence worth... This guy, Barry, seems like a reasonable bloke with a bit of cash and bordom on his side. He doesn't know much about the retro commodore scene but thinks there might be a Market for some vintage styled equipment. He sees it as a fun little hobby to keep him busy and he clearly has motivation to make a product.
IMHO I think all the whingers here should just shut up and let him do something, you never know, he might make an intereting product... If he fails to deliver then, definitely give him crap for it...

I had this long diatribe basically outlining the same thing last night, but decided not to post 'cause I thought it would have just gotten lost among the pages and pages of BS. So thanks for this Bloodline!

[KThunder]

Even the Commodore of old just bought the Amiga technology (hard- and software) - it wasn't their development.

The tie wearing idiots that called themselves "manager" drove the company to the ground with their incompetence.

So I don't care for Commodore - neither for the old one, nor for the latest (re-)incarnation of that corpse.

They were just one owner of the Amiga technology in a long row and the fact that their latest re-incarnation  deals/dealt with that Amino/AInc/Itec/KMOS/AInc/Amino scam company doesn't really help to make me feel better about them...

All that I associate the name "Commodore" with are stupid business decisions followed by the downfall.

What counts for me most is that the "spirit" of Amiga lives on in the updates to the AmigaOS and the HW it runs on.



Hmmmm - so you're saying my Amiga 4000 with 68060 cpu and PPC604e cpu isn't real?

Ok lets see if we can tie your nonsense together and respond here.

OS4 on an amiga 4000 ppc runs on the ppc, amigas are 68k machines, commodore never released a ppc machine, so os4 runs on a non-commodore, non-amiga, component slapped onto the side of your cpu. If I ran Windows on a bridgeboard in an Amiga 3000 does that mean that Amiga's run Windows?

As for your who developed Amiga stupidity, no Amiga did not originate with Commodore, but 99 percent of the development, including ALL of the actual computer models and ALL of the OS releases except for 3.5,3.9, Aros, MOS, and OS4 were by Commodore.

I know the history of Amiga as well as you, but I'm not quite as pedantic.

The rest of your comments were so stupid and nitpicky I won't even comment on them.

[KThunder]

I'm late to this party, mostly because I don't care enough about the religious wars to get involved again. But I have read through the thread now and I think only Kronos really raises any interesting questions.

Here's my tuppence worth... This guy, Barry, seems like a reasonable bloke with a bit of cash and bordom on his side. He doesn't know much about the retro commodore scene but thinks there might be a Market for some vintage styled equipment. He sees it as a fun little hobby to keep him busy and he clearly has motivation to make a product.
IMHO I think all the whingers here should just shut up and let him do something, you never know, he might make an intereting product... If he fails to deliver then, definitely give him crap for it...

As for the religious crap about "true Amiga", that got real old about 6 years ago. No current project has "direct lineage" with the old Commodore Amiga, and in fact all the current projects have shared code/ideas to the point that they are more closely relatedto each other than to the "One true Amiga"(tm)...

Take care!

Well put bloodline, +1

[brownb2]

I had this long diatribe basically outlining the same thing last night, but decided not to post 'cause I thought it would have just gotten lost among the pages and pages of BS. So thanks for this Bloodline!

Instead of posting this diatribe/bs an "I agree" would have been acceptable and shorter way of saying the same thing

[Franko]

Instead of posting this diatribe/bs an "I agree" would have been acceptable and shorter way of saying the same thing

@ brownb2

:lol:

(PS:You look a lot better now in your new avatar... :lol:)

[save2600]

Instead of posting this diatribe/bs an "I agree" would have been acceptable and shorter way of saying the same thing

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There's your brevity buddy    :lol:

Oh and almost forgot...

[redfox]

@redrumloa

Thanks for your report Red.  That Commodore 64x looks quite nice.

I'll take the wait and see what transpires route, rather than wade into the debate.

Thanks,
redfox