My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[commodorejohn]

Does this look like slapping a glue-on Commodore badge to a PC?

Nope. Looks like slapping a screw-on Commodore case to a PC.

[redrumloa]

Nope. Looks like slapping a screw-on Commodore case to a PC.

You would have to admit this takes quite some effort and cost to produce above and beyond slapping a sticker on white box PC, no?

[Terminills]

Does this look like slapping a glue-on Commodore badge to a PC?

woulld take a lot of stickers to get them to stack that high. :-D

[dammy]

I hate to correct you, but he isn't selling anything at all
 

 
Well, we're past the superbowl as it turns out. I dont watch the thing, so someone else can fill in if there were any computer adds

No, as I said he decided against it because the C64x stock would not be ready soon enough.  The four TV adds he showed us was pretty good, the fifth was still in storyboard shape and that one I kinda hope doesn't make it, a bit too controversial for the market Barry is aiming for IMO.

He broke down how fast that $2.5M is going to be spent over I think it's a 15 day period.  So much money, so little total time.

[commodorejohn]

You would have to admit this takes quite some effort and cost to produce above and beyond slapping a sticker on white box PC, no?

Cost and effort? Absolutely. Does that translate into the authentic claim to the crown they think it does? No, it's completely irrelevant. Thus, while I don't discount the time and effort involved, I say that it's no more significant to the Commodore/Amiga community than slapping a sticker.

Just a shame all that time and money aren't going towards something actually Amiga-related, is all

[smerf]

Hi,

@Runequester,

Don't worry about not watching the Superbowl. Rottenburger stunk, threw two interceps in the first quarter, Mendenhall done his famous fumble thing and the Steelers lost, Rottenburger tried to put it out in the last minute but failed miserably, the Steeler defense or steel curtain had holes in it all night long and the Steelers lost. Everything about this superbowl sucked, even the place where they played at (Dallas), but then again everything in Texas sucks.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@red,

Hey red you should know by now that some people are going to believe what they believe, and no amount of talking will change thier mind. I know how these people feel, because I am one of them, the Amiga was and still is magical. To think you can throw it in a PC case and sell it as an Amiga is quite wrong, a year ago you couldn't convince me of such a thing, but after playing with Amiga Forever on one of the newer computers I have changed my mind, the magic is almost comming back again, especially when I do not have to determine:

is it PAL or NTSC
is it CD32
is it CDTV
do I have to turn on or off memory
what do I have to downgrade.
is it AGA or is it OCS

It just seems so much more fun to load and run on Amiga Forever and I found out if their is no copy protection (are you listening EA) even your productivity programs like Pen Pal, Final Writer, Amiga File will run on Amiga Forever.

OK, it is not Amiga, but it is saving my hardware on the real Amiga's and that is what I care about.

smerf

[TheBilgeRat]

Hi,

@Runequester,

Don't worry about not watching the Superbowl. Rottenburger stunk, threw two interceps in the first quarter, Mendenhall done his famous fumble thing and the Steelers lost, Rottenburger tried to put it out in the last minute but failed miserably, the Steeler defense or steel curtain had holes in it all night long and the Steelers lost. Everything about this superbowl sucked, even the place where they played at (Dallas), but then again everything in Texas sucks.

smerf

Rottenburger?  Was this a food fight?  And what exactly were they stealing?  The only thing I understood in this paragraph was "Texas stinks"

Yes.  Yes it does. :lol:

[Dandy]

OS4 was not produced by commodore, or even AI,

Even the Commodore of old just bought the Amiga technology (hard- and software) - it wasn't their development.

The tie wearing idiots that called themselves "manager" drove the company to the ground with their incompetence.

So I don't care for Commodore - neither for the old one, nor for the latest (re-)incarnation of that corpse.

They were just one owner of the Amiga technology in a long row and the fact that their latest re-incarnation  deals/dealt with that Amino/AInc/Itec/KMOS/AInc/Amino scam company doesn't really help to make me feel better about them...

All that I associate the name "Commodore" with are stupid business decisions followed by the downfall.

What counts for me most is that the "spirit" of Amiga lives on in the updates to the AmigaOS and the HW it runs on.

and it doesnt run on real 68k amigas.

Hmmmm - so you're saying my Amiga 4000 with 68060 cpu and PPC604e cpu isn't real?

[Dandy]

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but as CUSA seems to be adamant on using them then I shall continue to express my views on this whenever the subject arises...

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[Dandy]

Amiga was a 68k computer developed in the 80's and early 90's by Commodore International.
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Wrong.

It hasn't been developed by Commodore - they just bought the Amiga technology.

Development of the Amiga began in 1982 with Jay Miner as the principal hardware designer of "Amiga Corporation". "Amiga Corporation" was a United States computer company formed in the early 1980s as "Hi-Toro". It is most famous for having developed the Amiga computer, code named "Lorraine".

You should get your facts straight instead of distorting history.

[Dandy]

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Seriously, those of you with moral, ethical, whatever obejections to this need to get over it.
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Seriously, you're certainly not in the position to tell anybody what he needs to do or not.

[Dandy]

Should they have asked you?
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To use their brain should have been sufficiant.
(See second part of my sig...)
Not to do so somehow seems to be tied to the name...

[Dandy]

This would have been the "sane" solution for C-USA:

Commodore PCs - a line of C= branded PCs running a variety of off-the-shelf OS's (Win, Linux, etc) or with a blank HD.
Commodore "Classic" PCs - as above, but with a Commodore themed case and AmigaForever/C64 Forever pre-installed with possily USB-Analog joystick adapters, joysticks and games.
Commodore Amiga cases - replacement cases for existing Amiga-like machines (Amiga1000-4000, OS4.x mobos, Minimig solutions, etc)
Commodore Amiga models - A line of Amiga compatable machines using Minimig/FPGA Arcade and eventually Natami supplied with a preconfigured SD Card containing ROMs, WB3.x and games.

Instead, they're up to something evil.

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[Dandy]

Then we have Hyperion, who was contracted by Amiga Inc to do 4 months of developing work (some carefully defined work tasks, as outlined by the Friedens themselves) for which they would get a specified sum of money.
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AInc broke the contract in the first place by not handing over the contractually assured source codes.

Don't distort history!

[Dandy]

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This guy recognizes that x86 rules the world.
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Are you trying to imply here that Amiga should rule the world?
Get real...