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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #119 on: February 07, 2011, 07:05:03 PM »
I can't seem to find KS ROM socket in my PC.
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #120 on: February 07, 2011, 08:42:04 PM »
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They do apply to everyone. Moderators don't check every sig link, but we do check when something is reported. Franko's pirate site was pointed out to me this morning, no one has ever reported it before. If someone else is linking to pirate kickstart roms, click the report button.
 
I personally do not care about abandonware, up to and including KS ROMS. The truth of the matter is the TOS includes this for a specific reason. In years past this website has received credible legal threats which prompted the rule. Wayne clarified this rule a few years back to where general discussion of piracy is allowed, but linking to specific pirate software is stil not. Kickstart roms are still legally licensed and legally available as a commerical product (see Amiga Forever).
 
You could ask Pyromania to relax the rule even further if you wish.

Damn I get tired of these anal retentive arguments on this subject!
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #121 on: February 07, 2011, 08:59:28 PM »
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Damn I get tired of these anal retentive arguments on this subject!


Yeah that may be true, but you are not the one footing the bill to keep the server up and running.  The owner of THIS board is the one that will have the legal issues if someone posts links to known piracy sites...  

It amazes me how everyone bitches about the facts and take it out on the moderators and board owners. The facts are that there are laws and if they are not followed someone will enforce them and quite often this will cause a lot of issues for folks that have absolutely NOTHING to do with the infraction.

For all you folks that disregard the courts and want to sponsor files and what-not that legally belong to someone else, by all means go ahead as Franko has and knock yourselves out.. But don't disregard the rules on this forum and cause issues for Amiga.org...
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #122 on: February 07, 2011, 09:00:38 PM »
...some outlaw! ;)
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #123 on: February 07, 2011, 09:16:26 PM »
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...some outlaw! ;)


HaHa..   OK that was pretty funny...  

For the record, I am not going to give any views for or against in regards to the relative merits of pirating or not pirating software.. I will also not be dragged into a debate as to the LEGITIMACY of the current laws regarding piracy and how they relate to the current Amiga entity or it's related software...   The legal arguments are complex and the money involved substantial...

Unfortunately, people get too hung up on their own personal opinions regarding a particular law or how a particular company enforces the law, but the sad fact is that the law is just that. Whether you like it or agree with it.. Or not.

My email above is simply stating that Amiga.org has to follow the law to the letter or risk everything.   We as forum dudes risk nothing and while our opinions are important, they are not the end all be all...  
 
Take a second and ask yourself..  If it was my board and my money and my sweat running it...  Wouldn't you put measures in place to safeguard it too?  

You can bet your ASS I would!
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #124 on: February 07, 2011, 09:23:24 PM »
I too am fed up with all this CUSA crap, yes I know I've been a big part of it only because I feel so strongly about it, still it's no excuse however for the division and harm that it's causing the Amiga community here.

I have done my part and removed the downloads page from my site and would like to offer my advice to Pyromania that the best thing to do would be delete and ban/lock all posts/threads that have anything to with CUSA from the site altogether... :)

Why should I advice Pyromania on this, simple he has been asking members on EAB for advice on what folk think he should do with all the problems the CUSA threads are causing here on Amiga.org.

See this link for Pyromanias comments...

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=57665

I know banning all references to CUSA may seem draconian but even I know as time goes on it's only going to get worse as my feelings on CUSA are so strong that I know I would be unable not to reply to some of the things I find objectionable posted here on Amiga.org with regard to CUSA.

This thread and the others currently running are perfect examples of this and I do take my share of the blame for starting some of them. I would be more than happy never to read another comment here with regard to CUSA and it would stop me from wasting other members here and my own time by responding to them and keeping this whole sorry episode going, for which I apologise to all the members here for spoiling your enjoyment of this great site.

Perhaps Pyromania has had enough feedback now on EAB to make his decision and could let us all know what he has decided. Personally though I reckon for all involved here that it's time to bring an end to this and I admit it myself by my own actions the pathetic and childish at times fighting and squabbling here on Amiga.org.

At the end of the day I honestly think this would only be for benefit of all members here on Amiga.org... :)
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #125 on: February 07, 2011, 09:47:23 PM »
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So fake it hurts :D
Ignore it, and only worry if a physical letter actually arrives from a actually existing advocate located in your very own country.
true. the guy is a raving loon.

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Actually there have been successful attempts to legally force people to remove wb/ks rom images from peoples sites. Personally I think youre potentially asking for trouble keeping them there, especially in light of you drawing attention to yourself. I dont really care myself, but I'd be surprised if it wasnt just a matter of time before you received genuine emails over it. As for OS4.x, it's the amiga based OS I have least interest in, but to call it crap just 'cos it doesnt run well on an old bppc+aga combo is a bit far fetched.

I have only looked at page one of this thread but when I went to the site in question I saw who was (once again) to blame.

I must say, that i am MOST impressed by the use of Stiff Little Fingers. One of my ALL time favorite bands  :pint:
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #126 on: February 07, 2011, 10:04:02 PM »
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As I said moto and I don't mean this to sound childish (just can't think of any other way to word it) but Dammy started with the name calling crap and so I treat folks the same way they treat me if that means sinking to their level then so be it but I'm not the type of person who just sits there and lets folk say things about me without responding... :)

Sorry if you have found all this offensive, but I can't explain it any better than that... :)

dammy is a moron and you shouldn't lower yourself to his level

that said, I understand your feelings

and i do wish to add that I have bought Amiga Forever and I did so for a variety of reasons (Since I did use WinUAE for years). One is to support a great product. another is to have a variety of "Amigas" under one roof. And this way i get to play with AmigaSys (altho it appears that pngs don't get seen. I guess that set up needs Powericons), AmiKit (although I borked something and that isn't booting right now.) and even run an Amiga 1000 just for kicks.

I didn't see your site before so I can't say i know what was/is going on there. But unless we are talking about dickless "I Love to Waterboard" chaney I see no reason for name calling  :)
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #127 on: February 07, 2011, 10:10:12 PM »
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dickless "I Love to Waterboard" chaney

What'd Lon ever do to you?!

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #128 on: February 07, 2011, 10:13:01 PM »
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true. the guy is a raving loon.


I have only looked at page one of this thread but when I went to the site in question I saw who was (once again) to blame.

I must say, that i am MOST impressed by the use of Stiff Little Fingers. One of my ALL time favorite bands  :pint:


Cheers Cecilla for you kind comments... :)

I aint even gonna mention that persons name here, lets just say I hope for his sake he can handle some of the every angry responses I've had on my sight from folks all over the world on my site, his problem now not mine... :)

On a brighter note and just for the sheer hell of it (and to rub it in to Warner Music Group) here's S.L.F. and they can't ban it cos they lost the little battle with me... ;)

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #129 on: February 07, 2011, 10:30:01 PM »
Right now we got that cleared up you know some of your mp3 might be....ho never mind. :)

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #130 on: February 07, 2011, 10:33:12 PM »
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I too am fed up with all this CUSA crap, yes I know I've been a big part of it only because I feel so strongly about it, still it's no excuse however for the division and harm that it's causing the Amiga community here.

I have done my part and removed the downloads page from my site and would like to offer my advice to Pyromania that the best thing to do would be delete and ban/lock all posts/threads that have anything to with CUSA from the site altogether... :)

Why should I advice Pyromania on this, simple he has been asking members on EAB for advice on what folk think he should do with all the problems the CUSA threads are causing here on Amiga.org.

See this link for Pyromanias comments...

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=57665

I know banning all references to CUSA may seem draconian but even I know as time goes on it's only going to get worse as my feelings on CUSA are so strong that I know I would be unable not to reply to some of the things I find objectionable posted here on Amiga.org with regard to CUSA.

This thread and the others currently running are perfect examples of this and I do take my share of the blame for starting some of them. I would be more than happy never to read another comment here with regard to CUSA and it would stop me from wasting other members here and my own time by responding to them and keeping this whole sorry episode going, for which I apologise to all the members here for spoiling your enjoyment of this great site.

Perhaps Pyromania has had enough feedback now on EAB to make his decision and could let us all know what he has decided. Personally though I reckon for all involved here that it's time to bring an end to this and I admit it myself by my own actions the pathetic and childish at times fighting and squabbling here on Amiga.org.

At the end of the day I honestly think this would only be for benefit of all members here on Amiga.org... :)

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I kinda like some aspects of Amiga.org, but it is fast becoming moobunny in a suit...
WHAT???? not even close! bunny is certifiable. AO actually has interesting discussions.

there are crazy people all over but I never felt that AO let things get too nutty. and we have socks here!
yes indeed!  :)
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #131 on: February 07, 2011, 10:33:52 PM »
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Right now we got that cleared up you know some of your mp3 might be....ho never mind. :)


Don't push yer luck matey, the MP3's are not for downloading and are provided as part of the contract of the SiteMaker Package from NamesCo the host whom I have to pay a fee every month to allow the use of the MP3 Player... :)
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #132 on: February 07, 2011, 10:34:25 PM »
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What'd Lon ever do to you?!

spell checker fail

LOL
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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #133 on: February 07, 2011, 10:37:40 PM »
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comment from that board:WHAT???? not even close! bunny is certifiable. AO actually has interesting discussions.

there are crazy people all over but I never felt that AO let things get too nutty. and we have socks here!
yes indeed!  :)


I used to have socks, but I ate them... :)

(PS: it's not the crazy folk that worry me, It's the ones who claim to be sane the give me the heebie jeebies... ;))
 

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Re: Commodore Scotland Under Threat...
« Reply #134 from previous page: February 07, 2011, 10:52:02 PM »
Anyone who complained about your site is probably one of the people still trying to rob the grave of amiga. (or they have close friends who are those people)
 
These people will never concede it, but no one can prove ownership of anything like amiga roms or wb 1.x-3.x. They never prove they own anything, merely say "prove I don't own it." which is a bullshit argument.
 
If I own something, a car a house, I can certainly show proof of ownership and would if there was ever any question. The same would go for any business holdings I have.
 
Never once has any of these people claiming ownership proven ownership of either os roms, source, names, trademarks, patents.
 
NEVER. Not once. Now they may sue each other and claim ownership, but never has anyone really challenged any of their claims.
 
The rights have transferred so many times and most of those contracts are no longer valid because many of the parties do not exist.
 
In regards to AINC especially, illegal and unlawful transfer of ownership from shell to shell would negate their legal claims. Look it up.
A decent lawyer would destroy them in court.
 
Amiga IP transferred so many times, no one can legally prove ownership of anything. If they tell you otherwise, I have an attorney who can surely prove otherwise.
 
In regard to the games, I think a message saying if anyone objects to their content being hosted here, merely email me and it will be taken down as soon as I receive the email is suffecient. The truth is, most people don't object. Like I said, its only the amiga grave robbers that cry and
complain and always try and start trouble.
 
As far as A.org having liability. Placing a notice in the terms of service stating that if you post pirate/commercial links YOU are responsible not A.org, thats suffecient to cover themselves legally. This is a bullshit argument for siding with the grave robbers. (no offense)
 
Franko...
Care to mirror your old site? I have alot of bandwidth I'm not using and great bulldog lawyer.
 
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