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Which os for NatAmi?
« on: January 31, 2011, 12:43:05 PM »
First of all i'm kicking myself waiting for the NatAmi to finally arrive. When it does i am going to buy it without a second thought :)

There has been lots of talk about the hardware of NatAmi but nothing about what it will run on. Which Amiga os would be the most ideal to use?

WB3.x - The NatAmi is vastly more powerful than the machines WB3.x was intended for. So i think it would be a shame to use an inferior os that will never realize the NatAmi's potiental. So do we stick with WB3.x or do we look for something else that can take advantage of it's higher performance?
 
I think the worst thing we can do is let Hyperion join in on the NatAmi revolution. They will only trash it with help from Amigainc. They will probably start charging users fees or some other BS. The appeal for me with the upcoming NatAmi is that we can make a fresh start away from Legal BS from the Amiga camp and potientally start a new platform. So maybe A4.x classic wouldn't be a wise choice.

I'm also wondering how Morphos would be like running on Natami. This would seem a good idea to me. But maybe the purists would reject it.

Aros is unrealistic as a Natami os as the development is too long. The delay it would take would only allow Hyperion to get a headstart.

I'm dreaming of switching on my NatAmi and seeing a os load up with NatAmi Workbench 1.2 or 1.3 just like it was 20 odd years ago.

I think the NatAmi has great potiental in the future to really shake things up a bit in the divided Amiga community. Especially if they end up selling thousands of them and not just a hundred or two.

So what does everyone think? :)
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2011, 12:45:59 PM »
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I'm also wondering how Morphos would be like running on Natami.

You can stop wondering, it won't ever run on natami.
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2011, 12:50:29 PM »
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You can stop wondering, it won't ever run on natami.

Stop ruining my fantasy!

It would be ironic if it did though. All that effort to move away from it only to move back again... :rolleyes:
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2011, 12:52:03 PM »
Natami is a never ending project anyway. There will always be something blocking the release of the consumer version.
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2011, 12:54:57 PM »
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There has been lots of talk about the hardware of NatAmi but nothing about what it will run on. Which Amiga os would be the most ideal to use?

AROS68K...

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I think the NatAmi has great potiental in the future to really shake things up a bit in the divided Amiga community. Especially if they end up selling thousands of them and not just a hundred or two.

So what does everyone think? :)

I think they'll be lucky if they sell "a hundred or two". Natami will be very expensive for what it actually is... a retro hobby system. I doubt you'll see people lining up to buy one.
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2011, 01:14:39 PM »
I think the whole point of the NatAmi is to have as close as you can get a modern piece of hardware that runs in 68K but does things a wee bit faster than even an Amiga with a fast 060 board can... :)

So OS4.x if out of the  question as that is PPC based (thank gawd... :))

Piru has made it clear it won't be MorphOS (thank gawd.. :))

AROS not really sure about it (thank gawd... :))

Workbench 3.x... Seems to me that's what the NatAmi is going to actually be made for... (THANK GAWD & THE NATAMI DEVELOPERS :))

(Pancakes... well you never know, as long as they're 3.x... :))
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2011, 01:16:33 PM »
Kickstart 1.0 and Workbench 1.0 :)
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2011, 01:17:37 PM »
I'd probably use WB3.1, but I might give AROS a shot, just to see if I like it.

Also yeah, no way it's ever going to run OS4 or MorphOS, unless someone develops a PPC accelerator for it (which would be pretty silly) or the OSes get non-PPC versions (not likely, if they haven't done so already.)
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2011, 01:20:42 PM »
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I think they'll be lucky if they sell "a hundred or two". Natami will be very expensive for what it actually is... a retro hobby system. I doubt you'll see people lining up to buy one.


Says he... who thinks CUSA are going to take on Apple and thinks CUSAs PCs aren't expensive... :rolleyes:

(are the queues forming round the block outside CUSAs "Apple Style Computer Boutiques" yet... :roflmao:)
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2011, 01:44:57 PM »
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Says he... who thinks CUSA are going to take on Apple and thinks CUSAs PCs aren't expensive... :rolleyes:
 
(are the queues forming round the block outside CUSAs "Apple Style Computer Boutiques" yet... :roflmao:)

+1 Franko :lol:
 
My Guess is that they are using WB3.1 with some patches from AFA OS and AROS, Im sure Samuel Crow (NATAMI's Software guy) could answer this ;)
 
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2011, 01:49:02 PM »
Natami is closed source too? I guess it will end up in the same legal battles we've already seen.
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2011, 01:57:24 PM »
There really is no option for the NatAmi other then AROS68K.  They could use AOS 1.x-3.x but that would have to be either them buying from Cloanto or making a long term deal with AI.  I can't see them putting out the investment for either and having to raise NatAmi's price to cover the additional expense(s).
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2011, 01:58:05 PM »
@ DCAmiga

Just goes to show the difference between the NatAmi Team & CUSA... :) (Not that there's any comparison really... :))

The NatAmi team has the decency and maturity not to just delete a comment that is not in their favour and responded to it in the appropriate fashion, heck they could have just deleted it and closed the discussion in true CUSA fashion and pretended nothing actually happened... :)

CUSA is a sad joke of a company, but I will say this for them, they do make me laugh... :))
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2011, 02:13:07 PM »
I understood Natami was to be (near?) 100% compatible with OS3.1 but with extensions to access the more advanced hardware?  In which case a patched 3.1 would make sense.  I assumed they'd sell the hardware without an OS,  users would then be responsible for OS installation (avoiding any legal complications).  Most users already own a legal copy of 3.0 / 3.1 anyway.   Not sure about the ROM's though?
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Re: Which os for NatAmi?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2011, 02:19:44 PM »
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I understood Natami was to be (near?) 100% compatible with OS3.1 but with extensions to access the more advanced hardware?  In which case a patched 3.1 would make sense.  I assumed they'd sell the hardware without an OS,  users would then be responsible for OS installation (avoiding any legal complications).  Most users already own a legal copy of 3.0 / 3.1 anyway.   Not sure about the ROM's though?



That would be my guess as well. they'll encourage ASROS68K development as i will provide a legal OS, but the systems probably will ship w/o an OS.

This would allow end users to install whatever variant they choose.
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