What the F***!

[WolfToTheMoon]

Visual Basic is not bad at all...

C++ gets more on my nerves.

But the worst of all, to me, is old Pascal(which I was forced to use in high-school).

JAVA rules . And it will be available on the future WBX, thankfully. CUDA should be interesting also.

[BooBoo1200]

I cant belive anyone is sticking up for this rubbish
Yes Amiga,inc are backing this the license argement is putting money in the Pocket of Amiga.inc
Yes calling it Workbench 5 is confusing and misleading this has nothing to do with Workbench, OS4 is the Offical next Workbench and doing this is very unhelpful

Yes this is just a x86 running linux & emulator for compatiblity

AROS is open source and much more Amiga related than this rubbish.
If you want to Buy a x86 that you could probably build cheaper just because your being told this is Amiga thats up to you.

[jj]

Except Hyperion has zero license agreements or trademarks with the name, "Workbench." Right now AI is battling Cloanto over their trademark name of, "Workbench." What does Hyperion have to do with it?

is this true not heard about that, thought they had permission for workbench, os, roms etc.
 
Have you got a link, not that I don't believe you just want to read about it

[yssing]

I see Iwin....

[yssing]

is this true not heard about that, thought they had permission for workbench, os, roms etc.
 
Have you got a link, not that I don't believe you just want to read about it

I here I was thinking that Cloanto actually had the licens... I still think they do..

[jj]

Visual Basic is not bad at all...
 
C++ gets more on my nerves.
 
But the worst of all, to me, is old Pascal(which I was forced to use in high-school).
 
JAVA rules . And it will be available on the future WBX, thankfully. CUDA should be interesting also.

From what I have seen of Java the syntax and layout looks identical to C
 
Never did Pascal, did however, for the very brief time I was there, do Modula-2 in uniy. From memory quie liked Modual-2, which I believe was based on Pascal.

[WolfToTheMoon]

I cant belive anyone is sticking up for this rubbish
Yes Amiga,inc are backing this the license argement is putting money in the Pocket of Amiga.inc
Yes calling it Workbench 5 is confusing and misleading this has nothing to do with Workbench, OS4 is the Offical next Workbench and doing this is very unhelpful

Yes this is just a x86 running linux & emulator for compatiblity

AROS is open source and much more Amiga related than this rubbish.
If you want to Buy a x86 that you could probably build cheaper just because your being told this is Amiga thats up to you.

AROS is outdated as is every other "modern" Amiga OS derivative. WBX will be based on Linux but it will also offer all the advantages of a modern OS.

BTW, AROS hosted is very good on Linux. It shouldn't be too much of a problem to incorporate it seemlessly into WBX for those who want to have it.

[yssing]

I dont quite get why Workbench and AROS is outdated. It seems to run just fine here, with all that I need for every day use.

What it lacks is not in the OS, but lack of programs, and that has nothing to do with the OS

[WolfToTheMoon]

From what I have seen of Java the syntax and layout looks identical to C
 
Never did Pascal, did however, for the very brief time I was there, do Modula-2 in uniy. From memory quie liked Modual-2, which I believe was based on Pascal.

It's based on the C/C++ syntax, yes. But I wouldn't call it 100% identical. Still, for any C/C++ programmer the syntax of JAVA comes very naturally. It's a pleasure to code in JAVA, IMHO.

[WolfToTheMoon]

I dont quite get why Workbench and AROS is outdated.

really...? It's aiming to achieve compatibility with OS 3.1, an OS itself released nearly 20 years ago. It lacks basic stuff that any modern OS offers, like memory protection. It is outdated, make no mistake about it.

[BooBoo1200]

I think hyperion enteraiment arnt alowed to let anyone else use workbench but are allowed to use it themselves.

I dont have anything against Cloanto  and they have contributed to the AROS kickstart free bounty.

I dont think Aros is as bad as you make out and even if it is thats AMIGA it is was it is, you cant make a Linux Distro Amiga LOL
I might aswell stick a Amiga sticker on my Dell - There I have an Amiga

Im glad your company hasnt been allowed to monopolise AROS

[yssing]

Yes it lacks memory protecting, there are pathces.. but what else?

There are patches for almost everything you can think off. Honestly my friend and busniness partner were talking about it last week, what does it actually lack. We came up with memory protection. BTW hee holds several engineering degrees and both software and hardware. I am just a developer

[dammy]

I dont quite get why Workbench and AROS is outdated. It seems to run just fine here, with all that I need for every day use.

What it lacks is not in the OS, but lack of programs, and that has nothing to do with the OS

The API is out dated.  Not much can be done to bring it to modern OS level with it being chained to 3.1 API.  Which is one of the reasons why I no longer support AROS.

[yssing]

The API is out dated.  Not much can be done to bring it to modern OS level with it being chained to 3.1 API.  Which is one of the reasons why I no longer support AROS.

What APIs are you missing??
3D?? Network?? Sound?? Graphics??

And BTW I am talking about amiga OS workbench, not really AROS..

[WolfToTheMoon]

Im glad your company hasnt been allowed to monopolise AROS

I'm not in any company.

If your interested in a modern, small, responsive OS than I suggest Syllable OS. It was partly inspired by AmigaOS but it does away without any of the negatives of the AmigaOS architecture. Check it out.

[AmigaNG]

Except C=USA doesn't care about Hyperion

Obviously they do, as they dropped Aros support due to the treat of legal action from them.

Except Hyperion has zero license agreements or trademarks with the name, "Workbench." Right now AI is battling Cloanto over their trademark name of, "Workbench." What does Hyperion have to do with it?

The whole bases of the case that Amiga Inc have got with Cloanto is that using the name Workbench will damage other Amiga related products, now if they dont mean AmigaOS, what do they mean?

Last Workbench released was 3.x. C=USA should be calling it Workbench4. Would that make you happier?

It be more correct, the only reason I can think they are using version 5 is to make it either seem to be more superior to AmigaOS4 or make it appear its it natural successor. Plus if it has no relation to the original AmigaOS or Workbench, why is it not just called Workbench 1, it is after all the first version of this new OS.

I see nothing on commodoreusa.net that looks like a banner from AO. If you are referring to Commodore-amiga.org, that is non C=USA's web site, that belongs to Terminills.

I agree on that one, but I still see a few things on the commodore site that I'm pretty sure they didn't get permission to use first.

Same can be said for Amigans.net, so what?

Nothing wrong with the Commodore-amiga.org site, its actually the best thing C=USA or its fans have done.

Nope, they never declared it was for Christmas 2010. Now I did read it was supposedly spread out over five years.

Thats still £6 million a year, so what did they spend it on in the first year, it cant be public relation.  :roflmao:. Did they support any Amiga show, event, developer, or any one in the community for its first year? (and don't say well they dont have a product to show, and they only just started business and only just got the rights etc etc, Aeon had only just started only just got something to show and yet still supported every major amiga event and sponsored competition and help developers.) will CommodoreUSA ever do anything like this, it would go a long way to convincing Amiga users and they would only have to spend 1% of there advertising budget, if even that. Just £50 donation towards any part of the amiga community I would be thankful from CommodoreUSA. (and again, this is not blackmail, trying to force the company to invest in an area of the market it has no interest in, but number 1. it would go along way to convincing people they do want to help the amiga community, 2. many other company in amiga world donate, even ageist their business, look at cloanto for example giving donation to make a legal free kickstart when its main business is selling these roms legally. Aeon/trever has donated and bought a lot from morphos and aros camps and he meant to be supporting OS4. 3. I think it would be seen as a good gesture from them. )