What the F***!

[dammy]

The only place the x86 is ubiquitous is in the desktop PC market, and that's only because it provides compatibility with Windows application binaries from previous generations. Linux is a fundamentally source-based operating system anyway - there's no reason this project has to use x86, other than that Atom boards are cheap and easy to throw into a prefab case before branding it and selling it to someone claiming it's an Amiga.

There is no claiming, C=USA has the license from Amiga Inc for the name, "Amiga."  After Eyetech dragged the name through the cesspools, there is very little damage C= USA could ever do to it. If anything, they are using well known models that won't have significant hardware bugs which is a perk the Amiga community is not use to.

[nicholas]

It really isn't as solid as many amiga users make it look like. It was very solid in 1985. By the start of the 90s, it was still very competitive. But by the second half of the 90s, some fundamental changes would have to been made to keep it competitive. Either that or face getting obscure, just like Apple's classic OS did by the end of it's tenure.


Exactly... mobile devices. Tablets and smartphones. Which is something that C=USA doesn't do for now. Once they do, then we can talk.

Their processors are not really suited for desktop use. And they are also getting long in the tooth by now. Not to mention that it would be impossible to get any of those CPUs in the free market.

 

Partly yes... but today there is no better hardware then x86 and that's it. It's plenty fast and plenty cheap.

Sure you have other reasons... it's fast, it's cheap and has a clear future upgrade path, not to mention complete market dominance.

Amigas will not run Atoms. They will only run high-end Intel x86 stuff with high-end nVidia GPUs, possibly even with water cooling as standard in some models. Also expect 3D gaming nVidia support, Video Toaster editions(RealTek is one of their partners), possible Tesla GPU home supercomputers and so on... .

All in all, I look forward to it. I wanna have fun... I also plan to contribute some software. They may be even an Amiga app market by CUSA.

"RealTek"?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

[WolfToTheMoon]

"RealTek"?

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, I meant Newtek :laughing:

[nicholas]

There is no claiming, C=USA has the license from Amiga Inc for the name, "Amiga."  After Eyetech dragged the name through the cesspools, there is very little damage C= USA could ever do to it. If anything, they are using well known models that won't have significant hardware bugs which is a perk the Amiga community is not use to.

I have the rights to the name Commodore Amiga.

I might license the names to AROS and MorphOS Team for zero cost.

[commodorejohn]

Amigas will not run Atoms. They will only run high-end Intel x86 stuff with high-end nVidia GPUs, possibly even with water cooling as standard in some models. Also expect 3D gaming nVidia support, Video Toaster editions(RealTek is one of their partners), possible Tesla GPU home supercomputers and so on... .

All in all, I look forward to it. I wanna have fun... I also plan to contribute some software. They may be even an Amiga app market by CUSA.

Okay, my mistake on the Atom thing. That doesn't change the fact that they're slapping a completely unrelated brand on generic x86 hardware that you can assemble from NewEgg for likely a whole lot less than you'll pay to get it with the brand slapped on.

Also, there's a perfectly nice app market already in place. It's called the Internet.

[commodorejohn]

There is no claiming, C=USA has the license from Amiga Inc for the name, "Amiga."  After Eyetech dragged the name through the cesspools, there is very little damage C= USA could ever do to it. If anything, they are using well known models that won't have significant hardware bugs which is a perk the Amiga community is not use to.

I don't really care whether they have the legal rights to the name or not - they're still trying to sell a standard x86 PC as somehow being a "new Amiga." If that's the case, the genericlone Pentium 4 workstation I'm typing on is as much an Amiga as what they're selling, and I didn't have to sit around looking at terrible POV-ray renders and wondering how much the distributor was going to charge me for it.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Okay, my mistake on the Atom thing. That doesn't change the fact that they're slapping a completely unrelated brand on generic x86 hardware that you can assemble from NewEgg for likely a whole lot less than you'll pay to get it with the brand slapped on.

Also, there's a perfectly nice app market already in place. It's called the Internet.

You can always get something like hardware for less when no-branded. Hello captain obvious. . But what you cannot get and what I do expect when buying something branded. Quality and testing. And naturally, some people like the brand.

Sure there's Internet. But it's always nice to have everything in one place to ease buying, especially if it's also a community thing.

[WolfToTheMoon]

I don't really care whether they have the legal rights to the name or not - they're still trying to sell a standard x86 PC as somehow being a "new Amiga." If that's the case, the genericlone Pentium 4 workstation I'm typing on is as much an Amiga as what they're selling, and I didn't have to sit around looking at terrible POV-ray renders and wondering how much the distributor was going to charge me for it.

That's tue for the most part. The Amigas, Ataris, Commodores, Aplles... of the 80s are long gone and will never return.

[commodorejohn]

That's tue for the most part. The Amigas, Ataris, Commodores, Aplles... of the 80s are long gone and will never return.

Well, you go ahead and give up hope, and I'll just keep cautiously holding out for NatAmi.

[WolfToTheMoon]

Well, you go ahead and give up hope, and I'll just keep cautiously holding out for NatAmi.

natami!? Nothing to get excited about... at least for me. A slightly faster 68K, again completely unsuited for modern home computing... And for a lot of money, if it is ever finished and released.

[dammy]

I don't really care whether they have the legal rights to the name or not - they're still trying to sell a standard x86 PC as somehow being a "new Amiga." If that's the case, the genericlone Pentium 4 workstation I'm typing on is as much an Amiga as what they're selling, and I didn't have to sit around looking at terrible POV-ray renders and wondering how much the distributor was going to charge me for it.

I'll hold off till I see what the OS looks and feels like before I'll pass judgement.  Or is that being too reasonable of an approach?

[Vlabguy1]

Um.. that C64 looks sweet.  Make the DVD drive door + the card slots the same color though.. black looks like ass..  but Im in either way.

Rich
ny

[Fats]

The only way this adventure can have a happy end is with Linux as a start/base. AROS is a dead end as long as it is OS3.1 API bound.

Strange thing is that AROS is alive and kicking and AnubisOS is dead; or at least in a very deep coma.

greets,
Staf.

[Nlandas]

It's a (new)start... one made necessary because of the outdated-ness of the original AmigaOS and it's derivatives and legal hassles surrounding it.

I would be against C=USA doing anything with MorphOS, AOS4 or AROS. That would be bound to fail from the beginning.

You'll love the statements about how they plan to fund AROS financially and be compatible with the OS from the beginning then. ;^)

[WolfToTheMoon]

Strange thing is that AROS is alive and kicking and AnubisOS is dead; or at least in a very deep coma.

greets,
Staf.

AROS may be alive... but is it really kicking? Depends what you describe as kicking. To me it never made sense to force OS 3.1 API today. They say it provides them with an unified goal, but I'm guessing that also mean AROS might be headed for trouble once the complete OS 3.1 API is achieved. What then?

No, I'll check out AROS from time to time but I see no big future for it.

[haywirepc]

Dosn't anyone else find it funny that anytime someone comes on this forum heavily hyping or defending cusa that they have 50 or less posts?
 
Do they really think everyone is that stupid? Why don't they just send the chief technical officer on here again, so he can call people stupid, lie about people hacking his amigaworld account and his own personal email accounts, and just generally represent cusa in the worst possible manner?
 
After ALL their hype, announcments of multi-million dollar advertising budgets, bragging, threatening people, and so on... All they have managed to accomplish so far is slapping a commodore sticker on a cybernet pc.
 
Oh, they have also managed to aleienate, insult, and argue with the entire retro commodore and amiga community, insuring total failure of their projects.
 
Sending shills on to defend your company because you don't have the balls to come on here yourself and do it... Well that just speaks volumes about them.
 
The amiga curse is upon them. They will fail to do anything, and in 2 years we'll be making jokes about them, just like we do now about A-INC and Silly Billy.
 
Steven